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Avery Johnson FIRED!!!!!

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Dave2000, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. Prince

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    Phil Jackson will close his bank.
     
  2. Easy

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    Maybe they should have taken Mike Ride-the-PG D'Antoni first.
     
  3. Cowboy_Bebop

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    Smart analogy? Lol. Right. There are plenty of better quality coaches out there right now than Avery J. Player of the month doesn't mean anything if you're not a super star. You either fired a coach or trade a player that is a poison to the locker room or team.
     
  4. munco

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    Avery Johnson has been overrated as a coach, but it is unfair he's being blamed for the Nets woes. With that said that's how the NBA works. Once the players stop hustling for you, you will get fired
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Two people w/ knowledge of Nets' plans say coaching search won't begin in earnest until New Year. At @<a href="https://twitter.com/usatodaysports">usatodaysports</a> - <a href="http://t.co/ZrUb9LVU" title="http://usat.ly/Rkq8Dq">usat.ly/Rkq8Dq</a></p>&mdash; Sam Amick (@sam_amick) <a href="https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/284404050814988288" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:03:04+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Billy King: "It was a tough decision. But the way we have been playing lately...the decision was made."</p>&mdash; Chris Mannix (@ChrisMannixSI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI/status/284404565414117377" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:05:07+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>King: "PJ will be the interim coach. Will we look other places? We may."</p>&mdash; Chris Mannix (@ChrisMannixSI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI/status/284404649598021633" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:05:27+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Billy King press conference: "the way we've been playing lately, and talking with ownership...the decision was made."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284404688311431168" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:05:36+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>More King: "Watching us, we just didn't have the same fire than when we were 11-4...it was a pattern."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284404905073074178" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:06:28+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>King says he spoke with ownership for about an hour this morning &amp; the decision was made after that discussion. Final call was Prokhorov's.</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284405139140390912" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:07:23+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>King: "to pinpoint all of this on Deron is not fair. He had no input in the decision."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284405303611633664" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:08:03+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>In an email to <a href="http://t.co/M2lfWwOt" title="http://SI.com">SI.com</a>, Stan Van Gundy says he has "no interest at all" in the Nets head coaching job.</p>&mdash; Chris Mannix (@ChrisMannixSI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI/status/284405309273931776" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:08:04+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>King told Carlesimo to "coach it like you're going to be the coach the next 10 years."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284405600031473664" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:09:13+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>King spoke with AJ for 30 mins. "It's never easy when you have to do this, esp w/someone you know and have gotten to be good friends with."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284406256632995840" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:11:50+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Asked about Phil Jackson, King said he wouldn't comment on reports, says he will give "all our support" to Carlesimo.</p>&mdash; Chris Mannix (@ChrisMannixSI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI/status/284406597885755392" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:13:11+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>King: "it's the overall team...at the end of the day, it's not like golf, where if Tiger has a bad day, his caddie doesn't make any money."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284407026375872512" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:14:53+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>King: "this year, I don't think we've had it where all four or five of our top guys have been at their peak."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284407533320433664" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:16:54+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>King: "Avery worked his butt off...somehow it just wasn't translating with the players on the floor, for whatever reason. I don't know why."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284408100667146241" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:19:09+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Also hearing that Nate McMillan is not on Nets radar right now. Might be tough for the Nets to land a big name this late in the season</p>&mdash; Chris Mannix (@ChrisMannixSI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI/status/284409741105582080" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:25:41+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Avery Johnson at his presser: "Being a coach is not always fair...I'm not coach, president and owner...I wouldn't have fired myself."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284411918779838464" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:34:20+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>More Avery: "This is not about the fair game...a lot of times, this is about the blame game."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284412068185124864" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:34:55+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Johnson agrees with premise of questioner that Brook Lopez's injury derailed Nets aftergood start: "Brook was carrying us."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284412378202910720" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:36:09+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Avery Johnson at press conference: "It's something that I guess had to happen."</p>&mdash; J.A. Adande (@jadande) <a href="https://twitter.com/jadande/status/284413054916128769" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:38:51+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Phil Jackson's longtime representative, Todd Musburger, tells me via text that Jackson "has no interest in the Nets' job at this time."</p>&mdash; David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) <a href="https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/284415070434373632" data-datetime="2012-12-27T21:46:51+00:00">December 27, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  6. grt004

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    ... Maybe it was not the coach, but the players. D Will and Joe Johnson are overrated players. Both their stats have been declining and the Nets record is indicative of their poor play.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/1007/joe-johnson
    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2798/deron-williams

    Joe Johnson has been on the decline since the 2006-2007 season. The Brooklyn Nets did the Atlanta Hawks a favor buy taking up his 6 year 119 million contract. D Will has been less efficient every year. Brook Lopez is a offensive monster, but his defense is suspect. Gerald Wallace is nice swing man and does all the little things, but is not a reliable shooter.

    In Brooklyn, D Will has Reggie Evans and Kris Humpries in the pick and roll offense, whom are definitely no Carlos Boozer or Paul Millsap. In Utah, he had Kyle Korver, Wesley Matthews, Ronnie Brewer, CJ Miles, and AK. Now he he is surrounded by streaky shooters.
    However, the coaching can be blamed for playing Jerry Stackhouse instead of Marshoon Brooks. His nickname is "Baby Kobe" afterall.
     
  7. Alex L.

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    It's easier to blame the coach. RIP A.J.
     
  8. knickstorm

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    lol people think it's actually his fault? Avery Johnson was coach of the month in october and november...was bound to hit a rough patch.
     
  9. PuzzledFan

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    Oh no! Avery got Coach-of-the-Month!
     
  10. meh

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    Avery Johnson is not a great, long-term coach. His style makes players tune him out, especially veterans with big egos. That said, this type of firing is generally not good PR. It smacks of knee-jerk reaction and overestimating player talent. And except for veteran coaches looking for cash grab, any other coach should stay away from it just because you're asking to be fired a year later.

    And for people who thinks Sloan's a good fit, Sloan cares about floor spacing as much as any coach in the NBA. The Nets players suck at shooting.
     
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--a...own-demise-is-sinking-the-nets-205709848.html
     
  12. durvasa

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    Is there anything appealing about the Nets situation for a big name coach to want that job?
     
  13. JayZ750

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    Can it get much worse... another Brook Lopez injury aside? While they have no chance of taking out the Heat, if Deron Williams can get anywhere close to what he was, and Lopez, Johnson and Wallace can at least play smart, somewhat efficient veteran basketball, it SHOULD be a competitive team.

    Best case scenario still has them behind Heat, Spurs, OKC, Clippers and probably NYC and Chicago (with healthy Rose) and Boston for the next year or so, but are those teams losing their coaches anytime soon? If you are not currently coaching, want to be, are a big name coach and presumably are thrown a boatload of cash and are a fan of the NYC metroplex area, then it isn't a bad situation on the whole.
     
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    It is better than most other available jobs in terms of team talent and financial resources. Teams that are doing fine typically don't replace their coaches.
     
  15. J.R.

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    You have a rich, Russian owner. That's about it. :p

    An OK, capped-out roster with a low ceiling(imo, in terms of going/getting anywhere).

    Tried like heck for Howard, not sure what more they could have done there. OK now, I guess it could have been worse had Deron left? They could have spent their money on the Johan Petro, Jordan Farmar and Travis Outlaw's of the world again.
     
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    Dude, if you ever meet Deron Williams, keep him in front of you. He does not mess around when it comes to backstabbing.
     
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    Brooklyn and money. Problem is, unless Williams starts playing like he did in Utah, that team can't make it far in the playoffs.
     
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    Im not sure if this was mentioned by Woj has stated that Sampson is right now being highly sought after for the NETs opening
     

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