Avery Johnson Believes We Have A Great Chance For LeBron

This.

kenwonobi, I have officially given up on trying to explain the facts of the NBA salary cap to you. I truly was not trying to put you down or to discount your opinions in any way. It was just that everything you have proposed in this thread is an impossibility. I am not "just being negative" when I say that, any more than I would just be negative by telling you that when you throw a ball in the air it will eventually come down. It's just a fact. No more. No less.

I love the Rockets just as much as anyone. (To be quite honest, telling a bunch of people on this BBS that they aren't as big of a Rockets fan as you simply because they are trying to tell you that you are factually wrong about a re-building strategy is pretty rude.) I can appreciate your love of our team and your desire to re-build around another super(duper)star. But you are staring straight at facts in opposition to your goal and are simply denying that they exist.

If, after having read the post to which I linked you earlier today, you are STILL trying to say things like "the Rockets can just dump Lowry, sign Lebron and then go over the cap to re-sign Lowry", then it is obvious that the facts upon which you must state your case are not registering with you.

Again, no disrespect. This is a FAN forum, first and foremost. And you sound like you're one hell of a fan. But you are simply wrong on this one.

 

Your join date says July 2009. Were you banned before?

 

I think it's funny everyone operates under the assumption that Les Alexander won't go into the luxury tax.

If Lebron would join Houston and put us $15 million into the luxury tax (or more), do you think Alexander would say no?

 

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I certainly hope that you hadn't read this before posting just now.

(My apologies if you had not.)

 

I hadn't. I'm too used to baseball, I suppose.

 

On that note, Yao Ming's contract expires this season. Of course, he can opt to stay, but if he opts out, would we still have Bird rights on him? We could sign Lebron first, then have our Bird exception to sign Yao afterwards, maybe?

Just trying to digest all the exceptions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nba_salary_cap#Exceptions

 

Sure. I was. You can bann me again if you like. I have only cared about the Rockets more than anyone here as my main fallback. People dont like the no nonsense approach I take towards moves on this team because they are too attached to our players instead of winning as a organization. They wont trade Landry and Lowry for a Allstar like Amare. They wont trade a future foot problem I warned them about and career ending sugery players like Tmac and Yao for guys like Bosh and Johnson who have no career injury histories and are similar in production. i am more straight forward and logic than most and most of what i posted bak then was the truth I got banned for in asking for a trade of Yao before his foot became career ending and before we even thought we could get Amare. I pushed for Ariza here and we got him and he is good. You should consider banning those here who dont want others opnions on making the team better not the other way around where they attack the positive team builders here who want Lebron, Bosh, and real uninjured players here to win a Championship. I will just find somewhere else to go and push those ideas on. For instance Like i pushed for Tmac when he first came here. Still a great move to get closer to a Championship than Francis would have brought us. Closer to making moves too to replace him with a guy who can bring us a Championship. Some of you didnt like me then either for replacing Francis or wanting to. Thats just me. A real fan with real basketball knowledge on who wins and who loses in this league. Who stays injured and who wont get injured.

 

You can only sign a player above the salary with an exceptions such as the MLE exception or Larry Bird exception. We do not own Larry Bird rights on Lebron. The only way for us to get his Larry Bird rights is to do a trade with Cleveland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Salary_Cap

Larry Bird exception

 

Ohh...the irony.

 

Good questions. Yes, we would continue to have Bird rights on Yao if he opts out (which I don't think he will). But his resulting cap hold would be equal to the max salary, which is what he would have been making in 2010-11, anyway. So the end result is, if the Rockets wanted to keep Yao, his opting out would have little impact on their ability to sign an outside free agent.

 

How is it ironic? That i am a no nonsense person with a military background and loves the Rockets? I thought that would be more of a stereotype?

 

Can we fire Daryl Morey and hire Kenwonbi as GM?

2 points in your last rant:

1. Yao's injury doesnt appear to be career ending or threatening.
2. You have the knowledge to predict who gets injured and who doesnt? or you know who will get injured and who wont?

 

I am thinking one thing that might make sense for both sides is for Yao to (1) opt out, and (2) sign 2 year deal, with 2nd year being a player option, paying him, say, $12 million each year.

I think he is scheduled to make $16 to $17 million next year. So, the new deal can increase the Rockets cap space by $4-5 million dollars. At the same time, Yao gets about $7-8 millon in total guaranteed money (which he would get by picking up the year 2 player option) even if his comeback next season is not successful or if he incurs another injury.

Of course, if he is back to top form next year, and stayed healthy, he can simply opt to become a FA and get all the money he can get in the market as he would have anyway (he would have made a few million less for the 2010-2011 season, but that's the price he paid for the extra $7-8 million he would have gotten in the event something bad happens).

 

It would take a leap of faith and a friendship with a recovered Yao (does he have that?) to make him want to venture over to HOU. There is an endless amount of market $ cash in China, though, and that might tip the scales.

 

Yes knowledge comes from injury history. He started to develop one when he got injured each subsequent time. Then you had each time in between to assess he was injury prone as it became more clear. Each time I pushed for Amare and Bosh more as it became more and more logical until he eventually gets a injury that could be career ending still and no gurantees he will ver play a full season now again. That is logical and not Naastramus somehow. Tmac??? Oh Tmac. Comes in having never played a full season. Starts to get injured every year for some stretch in between he play long enough like Yao to get somone in return like him. I push harder and harder to trade him with each subsequent injury knowing he will in fact break down eventually and that he and Yao who are both injury prone but superstars in between cant play a whole season together as it is statisticaly impossible for two players who are injury prone to last a whole season together. Thats just common sense. Every time they get healthy they put up their old numbers and we have this short window to get Amare, Bosh, Johnson, Vince Carter, Wade, Gasol, and Garnett for them in those years in which some of them were eventually traded anyways. So yes I dont need to be psychic when you have an injury history if just follow a pattern. No Morey is great at what he does. We could still win it all with Yao and Tmac IF IF they can comeback long enough to stay on the court and still have some former semblance of their game before they had catastrophic injuries. In that case i would keep everyone we had now like Morey is doing including Tmac and go at it for one more year with superior depth as our strength. However Yao and Tmacs injury history tells me again????? One of them wont make it that far and blows up our chances again late in the season. That is not math or mind magic. Just pure basketball knowledge of their histories and the history of the game itself.

 

I don't think that will play much in his decision. LeBron does lots of marketing in China for Nike. He is the 2nd most popular player after Yao Ming in China. I am sure the chinese companies have already approached him.

 

I actually thought about that, CH. Yes, technically, that COULD be done. But I just don't see Yao doing it. Yao will likely get max (or at least near-max) money no matter what. He could come back as a shell of his former self, and Les would still pay him. Yao Ming is the best investment that Les has ever made. And that's saying a lot, since Les is a good investor.

But who knows? Maybe that has been Morey's, Les's and Yao's plan all along. I recall Charles Barkley did something like that awhile back (took only $1M one year with the Rockets so that they could use the resulting cap room to obtain Scottie Pippen), but that is a real rarity in today's sports landscape.

 

So again Bima thanks for being knowledgeable. With a little creative move making we found another way to get players here. This is where all of these players can wina Championship even with Yao hurt on this team perhaps. We have to keep telling them to come here and this is where they want to come and we are going to get one of them and win a Championship. This is their best option here with us to win it all.

 

I know we as rockets fans can dream but there's no way in hell Lebron is coming here. You can say he has enough money so it would be easy for him to take a pay cut, but I don't buy into tha at all this is the NBA and you have to get the money while you can. Second is I don't get why people are saying he would have a great chance to win here because of Yao. I think Yao would play a part in it but not for him coming here it would be for him not coming here because we all know Yao can't stay healthy and I'm pretty sure Lebron knows that too.

 

First off, money is the main issue. Secondly, u guys overrate playing with yao. You don't see guys lining up up play with a guy that stalls your offense. That's why mcgrady is more than wanted by management. They know he doesn't mind and goes out his way to get yao involved and stay involved in the game.