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Authorities Swarm Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Lil Pun, Nov 18, 2003.

  1. mrpaige

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    Sometimes you just have to rely on the word of the victim, how his story holds up over time (i.e. does he claim things that couldn't be true based on evidence collected, and does his story stay consistent over time) and things of that nature. Then you put the kid on the stand, have him testify and the jury can weigh whether they believe the kid or if they believe Jackson.

    Many cases come down to who the jury believes more, which seems like such a crapshoot way to decide whether a person goes to prison or not. But I don't know how you fix it.
     
  2. JPM0016

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    considering the kid is still battling cancer, i think the jury would certainly side with him.

    I hope Jackson gets what he deserves
     
  3. michecon

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    Now I know a few more things about this case:

    1. The child is battling cancer.
    2. The case is mostly based upon what construed by concellor of what the child said--after he was derided by peers.
    3. MJ has been given aids to the Child, but he stopped the giving for some reason.
    4. The case has been investigated for 6 months, the procecutor has still only one witness so far.

    Now the wacho appearance would easily lead people believe MJ is subjectible to this kind of accusation. Is this an coincidence people here don't show a thread same feeling or object attitude toward this guy as they show toward accusations Eddie Griffin faces?
     
  4. michecon

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    someone on foxnews says he can get up to 8 years for every "incidence" and addtional 2 years for additional "touches" in each incidence. So, presumably, he can be life in prison if one ot believe he is a chronicle violator.
     
  5. Smokey

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    Yep. I saw it on the news then found it online.

    I have heard you are not allowed to wear makeup during mugshots but it looks like he has some on.
     
  6. Jeff

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    I tell ya', I am not looking forward to the ridiculous media coverage. Only guy in America who is besides Geraldo is probably Kobe. :)

    Tonight, Entertainment Tonight had these giant headlines flying onto the screen "THE ACCUSER", "THE DEFENSE" - it was awful. Mary Hart read the most horrific script ever. Showing him walking into the sheriff's office, she said, "His perfectly groomed hair shrouded his face in black" and when an officer patted him on the back as he walked in the door she said, "An officer gives him a pat on the back in a small showing of human kindness" or some **** like that.

    Oh, my GOD, it was awful. It's only going to get worse from here on out.
     
  7. Rockets2K

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    Smokey...I heard that.

    Jermaine ws livid! :eek:

    Anyone found that tirade online yet?
     
  8. mrpaige

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    I guess Michael Jackson stories = ratings.

    I was watching that Celebrity Justice show one time several months ago, and they kept teasing this story about "Michael Jackson" being involved in some lawsuit. So, it finally comes to the story, and it's about the guy Michael Jackson uses as an interior decorator being sued by some other celebrity over something. Jackson had nothing to do with the story at all other than that he had previously hired the decorator.

    They even read the story like "So-and-so celebrity is suing Michael Jackson............'s interior decorator.

    Insane.
     
  9. Chance

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    For those not listening to 610 yesterday.

    Jeez. First Curt Cobain commits suicide, then Chris Farley dies of gluttony, now the King of Pop is accused with child molestation. I never saw any of those coming.
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

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    I watched the DA's news conference and thought it was unusual that he seemed personally happy about the whole thing. He also kept talking about "the victim" instead of "the alleged victim".

    Then I found this article:

    Why Is The DA In The Michael Jackson Case Smiling?

    Santa Barbara, California, District Attorney Tom Sneddon's cheerful smile at Wednesday's press conference announcing the latest child-molestation accusations against Michael Jackson said it all.

    This case is personal.

    With 33 years of experience as a district attorney behind him, Sneddon is certainly a professional, but he showed unusual satisfaction in issuing an arrest warrant for the pop star (see "Michael Jackson Wanted On Multiple Counts Of Child Molestation").

    The apparent vendetta most likely stems from two events. Sneddon was the prosecutor on the child-molestation case against Jackson 10 years ago, only to find himself without a victim willing to testify when Jackson reached a multimillion-dollar settlement with the alleged victim's family (that case led California to change its laws regarding witness testimony in child molestation cases). Secondly, Jackson later attacked the district attorney in his music.

    Jackson's 1995 double album, HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book 1, includes a song called "D.S." featuring the chorus, "Dom Sheldon is a cold man," according to official lyrics. His pronunciation of the title character, however, sounds much closer to "Tom Sneddon is a cold man."

    In the opening verse, Jackson sings, "They wanna get my ass/ Dead or alive/ You know he really tried to take me/ Down by surprise." Other verses includes the lyrics, "He out shock in every single way/ He'll stop at nothing to get his political way," and "You think he brother with the KKK?/ I know his mother never taught him right anyway/ He want your vote just to remain DA."

    Sneddon addressed the song earlier this year in an interview with the National District Attorney's Association (NDAA). "I have not — shall we say — done him the honor of listening to it," he said.

    Prior to releasing "D.S.," Jackson indirectly expressed his frustrations with Sneddon in a television announcement, noting the excruciating experience of being stripped naked and photographed during the 1993 investigation.

    Before the accuser halted the investigation by declining to testify in court, Sneddon said the photographs were necessary to verify the boy's description of intimate parts of Jackson's anatomy.

    The district attorney, a father of nine, is known for his take-no-prisoners courtroom demeanor, which earned him the nickname "Mad Dog" early in his career, according to the NDAA.

    Sneddon served in the Vietnam War and worked at the Los Angeles district attorney's office but has been with Santa Barbara County since 1969. He was elected district attorney in 1982 and has been re-elected ever since, prompting the local newspaper to call him "arguably the single most powerful person in all of Santa Barbara County."

    Aside from handling Jackson in 1993, the former Notre Dame boxer is most famous for a case that almost stalled when Israel refused to extradite two hit men accused of murdering a Santa Barbara couple. Sneddon eventually traveled to Israel and assisted prosecutors in convicting the men and then turned around and had Canada extradite the man who had hired the hit men and convicted him.

    On Wednesday, Sneddon maintained a grin for most of the press conference and even made some jokes, such as when asked if the timing of the charges was connected to Tuesday's release of Jackson's Number Ones hits album. "Like the sheriff and I are really into that kind of music," Sneddon said.


    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1480542/20031120/jackson_michael.jhtml?headlines=true
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    By the way, Michael Jackson's mother has already brought an accusation of racism into the case in an interview with a German magazine. She said there are two different sets of laws for black and white people in the US and that IF any evidence is found on the premises, there is a high probability that he was "framed".
     
  12. Austin70

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    Give the freak green hair and he is a dead ringer for the Joker from Batman.
     
  13. JPM0016

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    it seems like everytime Michael Jackson is involved in some kind of problem, or scandal the first thing his family does it scream racism. Remember Michael's speech about the Head of Sony. He called him a racist because his album sales were terrible. Instead of blaming himself for putting out mediocre cd's he blamed sony for not promoting it enough.
     
  14. Rockets2K

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    I dont recall the family coming out in such screeching defense of him last time..makes me wonder if there is really something to this one...and they know it.
    I wonder which member of the family will be making noise next?
     
  15. AroundTheWorld

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    I have another question - why did they have to humiliate him by escorting him to jail in handcuffs when he reported to police and was already in their custody, and there was obviously no risk of him running away or hitting people if he was not in handcuffs?
     
  16. JPM0016

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    Why should he be any different from anyone else?
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    My understanding would be that handcuffs would be used when there is a danger that someone tries to escape or to attack people. In this case, neither applies. If it is standard procedure that anyone for any offense, even if they reported voluntarily and there is no danger of escape and it is clear already that they will post bail, is put into handcuffs, then you are right.
     
  18. Austin70

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    Can anyone post a picture of Jackson and the old TV Joker side by side? I can't do it, but I know they will look like they were seperated at birth.
     
  19. SamCassell

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    What makes you think that Jackson's no risk? Cops would look pretty stupid if he did and they didn't have him in cuffs. And it would look like they were showing favortism to the guy. I'm pretty sure it's s.o.p. to cuff anyone and everyone who's arrested.
     
  20. Lil Pun

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