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Authorities discover 30 tons of mar1juana in tunnel

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by G-Money, Nov 3, 2010.

  1. Surfguy

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    Why does everyone assume all the Mexi stuff is low grade? I saw a report that more and more of these guys are now doing the high grade strains.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    Grown outside, not fertilized, will have been pollinated (thus having seeds).

    Grown inside with the male's culled, nutrients closely monitored, will produce much more productive plants. No matter what the crop is.
     
  3. Billy Bob

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    And they're full of seeds. I don't do MJ but my friends complain about seeds in Mexi stuff.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    I mentioned the seeds. Anything grown outside will have seeds from pollination.
     
  5. Surfguy

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    it's still high grade if they start from high grade. granted, it may not be as good or productive as indoor.
     
  6. Bandwagoner

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    That isn't really true. I could give you seeds from the best tomato cultivars in the world but if you miss water or fertilize them (or it just doesn't rain) they will pale in comparison to mediocre cultivars grown under perfect conditions.
     
  7. Surfguy

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    okay...so we're assuming mexicans don't know what their doing now in regards to something they always do. i get your point. but, you're assuming the worst is relevant.
     
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    you've all been back traced
     
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    Duuuude...
     
  10. Bandwagoner

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    You are putting to much into high quality seed.

    Just some comparison.

    Assuming they fertilize and irrigate. (not sure how many of them actually do, I would guess a minority)

    Indoor growers not only start with a cultivar, they find the strongest of the plants of the cultivar then take genetic copies of it to make their entire harvest of that exact plant.

    Their light has the ideal wavelengths for the specific growth stage of the plant.

    There are no cloudy days without light.

    With hydroponics you know the exact amount of nutrients the plants get, and it can be changed without shock to the plant.
     
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  11. Billy Bob

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    I'm sure they do, but I think it's more of a business decision. It wouldn't be cost effective to grow thousands of tons of weed inside, with lamp, fertilizers, a/c... etc. They also have to expect a certain percentage of loss getting it across the border.

    "Quantity is it's own form of Quality"
     
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  13. jo mama

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    do you smoke pot?

    nobody is assuming anything - we are stating a fact that mexican weed is of a lower quality than the american home-grown stuff. that is not to say that there arent home-growers in mexico who read high times and know what they are doing - there are...but that is not the weed that is brought to the u.s. (perhaps a very small %) - what we get is the outdoor, mass grown variety - they get field laborers to take care of the plants - its not like they are flying in hippies from humboldt county and using the latest in hydroponic technology and creating the kind of strains you get in amsterdam or cali. its a high-volume deal...quality has nothing to do with it.

    that is why there is such a price difference - a quarter of kind bud goes for $100 while a quarter of 'mexican' weed goes for about $20.
     
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  17. Surfguy

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    Where did I ever say in my post I was comparing what comes out of Mexico to what is grown indoors here in the US? Nowhere. I would expect indoor grows using hydroponics, proper lighting, nutrients, etc. . is going to yield better results than anything grown outside in Mexico. That is not what I was comparing at all. I'm strictly comparing grade of what is coming from Mexico.

    My idea of high grade versus low grade is not based on production yield or even seeds in the bag (male pollinated female). That's just weight. It's based on THC content. That may not be how it is actually defined or you define it...but that is how I define it for purposes of doing a job.

    I saw some report on TV about Mexicans switching to high quality seeds to grow in their fields instead of the low quality seeds to grow. I forget the exact reasoning why...but I thought it was because of quality and earning a little more money given that.

    My understanding, regardless of growing conditions, is the following:

    1.) Juan acquires high quality strain seeds from a source and plants them in field A.

    2.) Julio acquires low quality strain seeds from a source and plants them in field B.

    Assume they both grow using same way using similar soil and watering with same lighting conditions.

    I'm simply saying that Juan's quality will be better than Julio's in the end....because Juan's yield, by the nature of the high quality strain seed alone, will have higher THC than Julio's yield. If that is not the case, then that is news to me.

    So, what you're calling low grade from Mexico would be Julio's product. Juan's product would be high grade from Mexico...not the same high grade from an indoor grow in the US under optimal conditions.

    Now, if Julio's yield somehow produced a higher THC content than Juan's given what I said...then...yea...I don't understand that. I guess my knowledge would be lacking then in this regard. I'm not an expert. I went to college, though.
     
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    it is based on THC content and the THC content of mass-produced mar1juana is much, much, much lower - thats why its costs about 1/5 the price of kind bud. for the record though, seeds in k.b. are very rare. even to have 1 in a quarter is unusual. the difference b/t mexican schwag and k.b. is the difference b/t miller lite and st. arnolds divine reserve.

    the difference b/t juan and julios doobie would be negligible in comparison to good k.b. i dont buy mexican, but when i did even when 'good' stuff came around it was still only like $30/qtr. and again, it did not compare in anyway to kind bud. they dont sell "mexican" weed at the coffee shops in amsterdam...trust me. and it is actually a matter of production - good k.b. that goes for $100/qtr is not produced in the same manner as schwag. and its not bricked up like mexican weed...ever.

    far from it...in fact it would be much closer to the quality of julios product than american k.b. again, the $100/qtr stuff does not come from mexico. im sure there are people down there growing it, but that is not the kind that comes across.

    im an expert and i went to college. i promise you that there is a huge difference b/t mexican weed and k.b. again, there is a reason it is 1/5 the price.
     
  19. Surfguy

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    there you go with the kb again. i left that out of the equation...but it keeps coming back. i know it's better. that is why it's not in the mexican equation. also, do you seriously think i think they sell mexican in amsterdam. geez. alright...i'm done.
     
  20. jo mama

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    ok, so what are you "refering" (pun intended) to when you say "high grade". what do you think "high grade" is exactly? you do understand the price difference b/t mexican and "high grade" or "kb", right?

    exactly. so what was your problem w/ refering to mexican weed as low-grade again? people were wondering the total value of the bust and citing kb prices, not mexican weed prices, which again are about 1/5 as much.

    im not sure - you dont seem to understand the difference b/t mexican weed and what constitutes "high grade" stuff.
     

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