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Austin Rivers on KPJ and Jalen: Someone needs to teach them to play the right way

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 8, 2023.

  1. hakeem94

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    you d be singing different tune if some of the players parents are paying you under(or over the) table to just let them do their thing...
    theres no incentive to win in NBA
     
  2. hakeem94

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    this is why tanking never works...championship and excellence requires too many things that cant be quick fixed or talent infused into existence...lack of talent is far away from being the primary problem of bad teams....its the last thing they need...thats why talent infusion never solves anything...
     
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  3. lockedin34

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    Completely agree with him. Jalen is developing losing habits. I think we need to get Porter away from him in general but getting a vet guard will be extremely important either way
     
  4. YOLO

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  5. Haymitch

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    We definitely need some vets around them who like the mentor role. EGo clearly does not, which is fine, but it means he should have been shipped out a long time ago.

    I always liked Austin Rivers. When he was here he played hard and with confidence, which Jalen needs to learn how to do. Rivers did of course have that awful ****ing playoff series that was his last impression with us so that sucked, but otherwise he was a great vet min asset.
     
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    Even if you think Silas doesn't know how to teach the right way, you cant convince me the entire coaching staff doesn't.
    If these guys are not playing right, the problem is deeper than just the instruction they receive.
     
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  7. AroundTheWorld

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    I think the issue is "them". We need a vet to mentor Jalen. KPJ is a lost cause. His immature actions in the Wolves game just underscore what most of us already knew.

    KPJ "mentoring" Jalen is beyond laughable, and for sure detrimental. But KPJ talks and acts as if he is trying to do that.

    KPJ needs to go. Addition by subtraction.

    And Silas and whoever else enabled this failed experiment needs to go as well.
     
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  8. JayZ750

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    What happened to @YOLO ?

    He used to be a great poster... now the 2 times ive come into the bbs at all the last few weeks, its just him b****ing at other posters cause they have the gall to add their own opinion to a post....?!?!?!
     
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  9. AroundTheWorld

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    Maybe we are all just frustrated by the current state of the Rockets. I also never had him on the radar as one of the bad posters before.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I do think Harden could teach them a lot...besides how to party.
     
  11. YOLO

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    nothing happened to me. If you follow the actual thread OP got called out by what Rivers was actually saying by me and failed to acknowledge what message Rivers was actually conveying. He leaves out "they need vets" and the poster claims they put it in their post. Wrong. he didn't obviously for a reason.

    Clearly trying to spin their narrative into Rivers actual message spreading misinformation. If OP wanted to convey his message, he certainly didn't need Rivers quote to do it\

    So is the thread discussion about what Rivers thinks or OP and whatever he thinks. Its two completely separate things. That's the entire point.

    I don't switch up on CF's. There's absolutely no reason to. i stand on my own regardless of what anyone else thinks. This board definitely has gotten worse though. Instead of asking what happened to me, you might want to see who's on the other end before pointing some kind of fingers. Filled with player only fans, scapegoat agendas, people just crying all day long about the same thing just over and over. I guess you can thank the state of the rockets for that. And a ton of the most respectable posters on this site have either stopped posting or significantly slowed down and basically just pop in from time to time. CF's has more and more become littered with trolls. That create alternates or leave
     
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  12. OkayAyeReloaded

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    Bring in quality veterans in free agency who either have been part of a championship team or won at a high level for years after we get another draft talent this year.

    Start building the winning culture and if one of your veteran, successful leaders is also the best player and hardest worker that is ideal.

    And yes, Austin wants an open door, but not mad at him.
     
  13. Hemingway

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    Tanking has worked numerous times. Tanking landed the Rockets Ralph Sampson and Hakeem leading to two championships and a finals appearance. Tanking brought Tim Duncan to the Spurs and a championship. Almost all good teams have been built through the draft. The Rockets have really no other option than to tank and it has produced three guys with all-star potential in Jalen, Jabari, and Sengun. They have also amassed a great deal of cap space starting next year. Any other plan would have put us in the mediocre merry go round for decades. Most everyone on this board believes the offense should run through Sengun and Silas should be fired, so quit acting like your the only one who has voiced that. Virtually all your other takes are pure sh*t. You have become the absolute worse troll this site has ever known.
     
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  14. King1

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    Nobody is going to develop properly until they get rid of KPJ. He is a losing player who brings the entire team down
     
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    "It doesn't always have to be an iso."
    That's the quote that stood out and a common theme from the NBA players moonlighting as a Rockets coach.
     
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  16. AroundTheWorld

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    lots of words to try and explain why you got unhinged

    It was obvious to most people that I quoted Rivers (verbatim) and then added my own opinion. Whatever your problem is with that is exactly that - your problem. You can disagree with my opinion, fine, but you came into this thread b****ing like a little b****, and you got the response you deserved.
     
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    At this point fans, opposing players and everyone who has been around the Rockets knows something has to change. I'm a fan of this being the last blatantly tanking year. This offseason development needs to be a focus. Infusing some veteran talent on to the roster and cutting the fat with Nix, Gordon, Mathews, etc needs to happen on day 1, if not at the trade deadline.
     
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  18. YOLO

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    but but but i have him on ignore. stfu loser

    i knew you'd crawl back like a baby. especially when i wasn't even talking to you. foh
     
  19. napalm06

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    He often gets unhinged, but yet for the sake of his sanity we should acknowledge that you started a thread based on a quote and directly rejected the main point of the quote by projecting your own opinion. It's not a big deal, but it is a simple one.
     
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  20. Nook

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    Lionel Hollins knows how to coach. John Lucas knows how to coach particular parts of the game. Mahmoud Abdelfattah knows how to lead and is very up to date on the latest coaching trends and styles.

    However, none of that matters when the philosophy of the head coach and possibly the GM is to do things like entrust Kevin Porter Jr. to be the primary playmaker and the leader of the team. It results in an offense that is poorly run and executed. Jalen Green and several other Rockets seldom get easy baskets. The offense at this point is literally Porter and Green taking turns at scoring. Good coaching doesn't matter when the head coach doesn't hold Jalen Green responsible for a complete lack of defensive effort or accountability on that side of the ball. None of it matters when your head coach lacks the ability or the realization that his style of offense doesn't fit the pieces on the roster.

    So, while assistants can help to some degree, they are really restricted by a head coach and GM that see the situation differently.

    The issues with the Rockets run deep, from ownership down to the head coach and it remains to be seen if it can be fixed. The Rockets have some nice pieces, but they are not being utilized or being led well. Also, they lack a franchise player at this point.
     

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