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Ausmus as Astros Public Enemy #1?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by JeeberD, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    I'll continue to believe the greatest living pitcher, thank you.
     
  2. sums41

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    Edmonds is my choice too, year after year this guy hits a ton against us, the spectacular catches are a given since he does that everyday against any team.
     
  3. gwayneco

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    Do you also trust everything said by the greatest living secondbaseman?
     
  4. Major

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    How would you suggest he prove that to you? Never mind that his last year in NY was mediocre, he had his best season maybe 7 or 8 years last year, and he's having the best season in his entire career this year with Ausmus catching him.
     
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    By agreeing with him, naturally.

    If it was just Roger, you might have a point, gw, but this same sentiment has been voiced repeatedly by many members of the pitching staff, coaching staff, Hunsicker, Purpura, etc....

    The Astros view catcher as a defensive position first and foremost, this philosophy is not unique to this organization though.
     
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    Tug McGraw, Pete Rose (1980), Lenny Dykstra, Jesse Orosco (1986) F those guys. :mad: :mad:
     
  7. Rocketman95

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    If it's regarding his personal experience in a baseball game, yes, I will trust what he says over someone who's never played professional baseball before. I know that it's a wacky position and all...
     
  8. gwayneco

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    So, you would buy anything that Joe Morgan says? Hum. See, I might be inclined to believe Clemens if he can actually demonstrate it empirically.
    I will take things on faith when it comes to religion, but in baseball I need proof.

    I do agree with you that I can't actually hate any home team player, regardless of his suckiness.
     
  9. Kerfeld

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    Even Pete Munro?
     
  10. gwayneco

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    If he can empirically disprove the following:

    For now, at least, the hypothesis most consistent with the available facts appears to be that catchers do not have a significant effect on pitcher performance.

    See - http://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/20020529aim.shtml
     
  11. Puedlfor

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    The problem with proving or disproving CERA is that it's almost impossible to find a significant sample size to compare results with. If you were trying to figure out if Ausmus was having a positive impact on a guy like Roger Clemens- how would you find the innings on both sides of the equation to make any data meaningful.

    Besides - Roger Clemens feels more comfortable throwing to Ausmus. Even if Ausmus doesn't handle a pitching staff a great deal better, the pitchers certainly feel that he does - and I would certainly argue that the confidence in Ausmus positively affects a pitcher's performance.
     
  12. gwayneco

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    But you would be arguing without any proof.
     

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