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[Audio] Rick Adelman not thrilled with how T-Mac handled it

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Soloman is a players best friend, Adelman was pissed off that he heard about the decision in the blog, and that is different than hearing Tmac was leaning a certain direction.

    DD
     
  2. Rocket River

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    I will post is somewhere else but I will start here

    Do you think the rockets just shipped TMac's only friend to Orlando

    Rocket River
     
  3. MadMax

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    I hear ya...but if he called the team doctor and said, "i'm leaning towards getting this surgery," then he did have contact with the Rox. and there's no way adelman didn't know that (if he didn't there's yet another reason to fire the medical staff with this team). so to get up there IN FRONT OF THE MEDIA and act angry when you never picked up the phone to call Tracy in light of the information the team doctors had from him is silly to me.

    I'm not defending Tracy here, mind you. This, in my mind, is a 2 wrongs don't make a right scenario. Communication sucked between these 2. But I put the impetus on the organization to control communication as much as I do any one player. From what I can tell, Tracy didn't call Rick...but Rick knew where this was headed...and Rick didn't call Tracy, either....and then went to the media before talking to Tracy...the very way Tracy went to the media before talking to Rick.

    I suppose I just expect more from the organization. Maybe I shouldn't.
     
  4. Shaud

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    Morey and Adelman have wanted to get rid of Alston since they took control.

    That is according to Solomon.
     
  5. Illmatic

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    First of all, T-Mac informed medical staff he was leaning towards surgery, keyword is leaning. Then he informs SAS and posts on his website that he is shutting it down for the season.

    Also, lets say he told medical staff he was gonna get surgery, don't you think he should have informed his coach too, probably first.

    Who do you tell you are calling in sick to work because of illness, the medical staff or your immediate staff.

    He screwed up the whole situation from the start, and took a cowardly exit out
     
  6. Illmatic

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    FIXED- Boss
     
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    Back to where?Hospital or Vegas?
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Huh? Max come on....

    They had an agreement with Tracy and his agent to go get other opinions and sit down and discuss the findings.

    Tmac told Keith he was leaning towards surgery then....during the TRADE deadlines, he posted it on his personal blog that he was having surgery and his season was over.

    He didn't call the team and discuss it with them as he agreed to do, he basically told his employer who is paying him $40+ million this year through the press.

    That was a gutless thing to do, and totally Tmac....color me not surprised.

    DD
     
  9. Shaud

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    I agree that T-mac should of told Adelman face to face or atleast by phone about his decision.

    But you can't compare calling in sick to the news of someone having surgery getting out. It's two different things.

    And some jobs don't have medical staffs there, so I would say it is pretty difficult to compare a regular job to the job of an NBA player.

    But yes T-mac could of handled this situation much better.
     
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    Trade that selfish b*stard for an apple for the good of human race!!
     
  11. MadMax

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    i'm not defending Tmac...I don't think he handled it right.

    But if he contacted Keith and told him he was seeing another doctor and leaning towards surgery, then it was less than truthful when Adelman acted so shocked.

    It seems to me that neither side communicated very well....and as a Rockets fan, I'm hoping the Rockets are taking care of their business...which includes following up with a star player with a gigantic contract when he says to the team doctor, "yeah, i'm leaning towards surgery, now."
     
  12. TheFreak

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    You know how Adelman is, always lying and calling players out in the media. :rolleyes:
     
  13. MadMax

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    He's called players out in the media twice this season, Freak.
     
  14. GlassHalfFull

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    Fess up, who made the additions to TMac's wiki entry. LMAO

    link

     
  15. t_mac1

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    both sides are at fault. let's stop talking about this. i just hope both sides can move on so all the fans can focus back on rockets basketball. it's that stretch run type of year and these kind of distractions are just stupid.

    1) tracy handled it completely wrong when he did not wait until he met all the doctors, even if he made up his mind to spite the rockets. the doctor he's meeting friday is the guy who will be doing his surgery if he still opts to do it. but he's also an expert on alternative methods and hopefully that doctor can find an alternative way for tracy. surgery is never good and if tracy can avoid it, that's good.

    2) i think the organization never backs how injured tracy is really is. they believe their doctors thinking that the knee is fine and can be played on. and i think tracy actually had A LOT of pain and struggled mightily with that knee. but the team didn't believe him. and i think the leaks throughout the season on the drama against tracy is FROM THE TEAM itself just to piss tracy off so he can play again. and the fans turned against him. and tracy played on it (proclaiming he's back multiple times) to show the fans he can still do it. but he can't. and he has embarrassed himself many games this season.

    3) and rick adelman is also at wrong in all this. he made tracy look like a complete fool when he said tracy NEVER talked with the team or relayed this info to him and how he got this info just like everybody else. everybody that i talked to in regards to this believed adelman's story. but when in fact he DID talk to keith jones and explained where he was "leaning." keith CONFIRMED that saying he talked to the team. so i think the adelman-mcgrady relationship is done b/c the trust is gone.

    so through all this, although i love tracy, i think a lot of trust has been broken and i wish the team just sit him out the rest of the season and trade him. the rockets need to move on. tracy doesn't appear to trust a lot of people in this organization b/c they don't believe him when he says he's hurt. and the team doesn't believe in tracy b/c they don't believe he's really that hurt and can play through it. just move on.

    and good luck to tracy on his new team. i hope he does well b/c he has done good for the rockets when he's here, moreso than any other rocket player when he's healthy.

    but let's return to rockets' basketball. we still have a season to finish.
     
  16. TheFreak

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    If you want to call someone asking you about something, and saying "this is the first I've heard of it", "calling out", then I guess you could say that. One of the reasons people give for not liking Adelman is that he doesn't call players out, along with not yelling and screaming on the sidelines.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    and also the microfracture surgery is NOT very serious and extensive according to feign b/c it's not on the part of the knee that is a threat to most people's careers.

    i think tracy understands this. i doubt he'll ever be back to the player that we know, but if it takes the pain away for him, he'll have more confidence and play better and be an 18-5-5 player.
     
  18. durvasa

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    That's not Adelman's fault. He didn't know McGrady talked to Keith. And Adelman's issue wasn't that McGrady said he was "leaning" towards micro-fracture. Tracy said, point blank, that he was going to get micro-fracture surgery without consulting the team doctors, and he even posted it on his website!

    I get that he's frustrated and everything, but there's really no excuse for that. Tracy needs to calm down and be professional. Adelman was absolutely justified in saying Tracy didn't follow the correct protocol and calling him out for it.
     
  19. MadMax

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    He went to the media to complain about players going to the media. He's pretty pointed here in the audio on this thread.

    No roll eyes at me with that post? I think that's a first, Freak.
     
  20. MadMax

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    Totally agree that McGrady handled this all wrong. Completely.

    But if telling the team doctor that you're leaning towards surgery isn't telling the team then the lines of communication in this organization are seriously screwy.
     

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