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[Audio] Rick Adelman not thrilled with how T-Mac handled it

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. Chuck 4

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    I am pretty sure there is something in his contract about medical fraud. So I highly doubt it.
     
  2. ibm

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    i had considered some of your posts defending the guy annoying at times, but that one right there won my respect.
     
  3. engr_alex

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    i guess im the only tmac 'apologist' left? ok, here's my defense of him.

    first of all, to those guys calling him a sleaze for doing this to block a potential trade, tell me, why would tmac wouldnt want a trade? coz i dont understand why he would block it like all of you suggest.

    first of all, even if he gets traded, he still gets that 20mil now, and 23mil next year. so it doesnt matter if he gets traded. secondly, why wouldnt he want a trade given the rabid anti tmac responses he's been getting here? wouldnt it be saner to up and leave these ungrateful fans who've seem to forget that tmac's been carrrying this team for 4years and this is the only years he's not living up to expectations because of a LEGITIMATE injury? thirdly, would it matter if he gets traded to a lottery team? coz he'll be better there coz he'll be the center of offense and he can carry the team like he has before and raise his value for 2010? finally, wouldnt he want to get traded to a legitimate championship contender because i seriously doubt the rockets are. if he really wants to get out of the first round, wouldnt it be better to get traded to miami (to play with wade in the EAST) or to phx to play with nash/shaq? or maybe to dallas or the spurs, especially since you guys still believe he's just faking his injury. cmon, tell me a good reason why he would block a trade to stay in houston, coz i dont see any.

    as for tmac shafting the org for breaking the news to SAS and not to them first, answer me, who did the shafting first?

    tmac had that offseason surgery instead of shutting it down last year at the same time as yao because the team needed him. he helped them to reach the playoffs and be respectable in the first round. then, he gets offseason surgery, but he played earlier than expected because shane couldnt come back on time. and then he wants to take some time off because shane was back but what did DM and RA do? they asked him to play through the pain. tmac agreed but was frustrated about his play, so they agreed not to play him on 2nd game of back to backs, but still he felt he wasnt good enough and kept asking to get some time off to rest and rehab but they keep on asking him to play.

    now, after carrying this team for 4 seasons and sacrificing your body because your GM and your coach wants you to play, you are having the worst season of your career. This is the only year you have sucked the entire time you have been on this team. but then, what do you hear? you hear that YOUR GM is actively shopping you. THE GM DISCUSSED TRADING YOU during the offseason for an injury you got playing for the team, and then you hear again that your GM is shopping you before the trade deadline.

    tell me, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? Youve been giving this team youre all for 4 years and this is the only year you have played subpar because of a legit injury, and how does your TEAM AND GM pay you back? by wanting to trade you?

    tell me, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL? You been playing injured for most of the season, but your GM and coach doesnt believe you and would rather believe the team doctors whove bungled up before. you try to get back but what do you get? instead of supporting you, your org who calls you their superstar is shopping you behind your back?

    How would you feel? Because i would feel betrayed and very pissed. I would start thinking of myself from now on, not about the team. I will do whatever it takes to bring myself back and rely on myself alone because obviously, no one's got my back.

    Tmac is an a-hole for shafting the team? How about the team shafting tmac first? How about them shafting JVG, Francis, even the Dream? Who has the most history of being classless?
     
  4. IamKhan

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    Good night, TMac.


     
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    I think your second question answers your first -- the guy is pissed.
     
  6. the_hustler

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    Amen. or atleast read PR for dummies..

    and although i feel bad that he has had a career ending injury.. the worst part of the drama is going to the media directly. SIMPLY PATHETIC .

    This signals the start of the new era in our team.. the YAO-MING ONLY era.

    I hope the guy stays healthy forever and gets us a friggin championship..
     
  7. kwng

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    Wow! TMac is really desperate to stay in Houston but the way he did it is absolutely inappropriate. He went to the media first just like Kobe but then Kobe wanted leave while he wanted to stay. Now the Rockets are stuck
    with an injured star that cost millions, cannot be traded and probably impossible to get anything worthwhile back after any surgery.
     
  8. sirbaihu

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    Your poignant refrain reminds me of a song:

    Once upon a time you dressed so fine
    You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
    People'd call, say, "Beware doll, you're bound to fall"
    You thought they were all kiddin' you
    You used to laugh about
    Everybody that was hangin' out
    Now you don't talk so loud
    Now you don't seem so proud
    About having to be scrounging for your next meal.

    How does it feel
    How does it feel
    To be without a home
    Like a complete unknown
    Like a rolling stone?
     
  9. cmellon

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    Well, either Tracy is intellectually challenged and not knowing what is proper and what is improper, or he is just a sore loser, knowing exactly what he is doing and the effect of it.

    Tough call about this. Probably he is the first one, but even if he is, his action means that he will be gone from Houston.
     
  10. kwng

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    I think all Rockets fans want the best for the team. So the best is TMac to be at his best and the team wins the ring. If TMac is not going to be at his best, we need to get the best coz the team need the best to win. If we are not able to get the best becoz of TMac actions, the fans would be upset. I understand this seems to be unfair to players, but that's how things work becoz we are "supposed" to be one of the contenders. The Rockets need to have the best to have a good chance of winning the ring. Injuries, untalented and aged players
    will hinder our chance to win the ring.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I am just very frustrated and disappointed right now. He really needs to apologize.

    I hear his prognosis would be good though - so there is something positive. But i can't imagine him ever being a productive contributor to the organization again.
     
  12. durvasa

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    I've been pulling for T-Mac ever since he's been with us. It would have been sweet for him to win a few playoff series for us and get that monkey off his back.

    It just sucks that its all ending this way. McGrady really must not be happy with the Rockets for him to pull this stunt. Maybe he feels they haven't had his back this year.
     
  13. IROC it

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    I'm very much ready to put the jersey on ebay...

    Starting bid: $0.01




    I can't believe he went complete coward.
     
  14. ibm

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    i think the contrary. the team, from morey to adelman, has met all his demands this season, prior to this latest episode of drama (and i for some reason don't believe it would be the last one). never have i seen a player decide to play one game out of a b2b set - all on his own decision.

    well, it's hard for me to comprehend the feelings and egos of top notch athletes to begin with, no to mention mcgrady has been kinda a weirdo. just amazed and also pissed to see that much talent going down the drain. the guy could've achieved a lot more - for both himself anf the teams he played for. sigh.
     
  15. durvasa

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    It wasn't all his decision. The Rockets were complaining about his going in and out of the lineup unpredictably. The purpose with him playing on one game of a b2b was to make it predictable -- so Adelman knows well before the game whether he'll play or not and can prepare accordingly. I think that McGrady and the Rockets both agreed to that arrangement.

    The Rockets all along insisted that McGrady's knee would get better if he just keeps playing on it. I think, privately, he probably expressed a lot of frustration with it and how it wasn't improving, and perhaps they kind of brushed that aside. Maybe he felt they were putting pressure on him to sacrifice his long term security as a player in order to play injured this year. Who knows, maybe words were said internally that pissed him off. I mean, if Doc Rocket is representative of how people inside the Rockets are thinking, there must be quite a bit of tension between him and the organization.

    Yeah, I know.
     
  16. orbb

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    As much as I am deeply disappointed in Tmac's antics, I have to say if I were in his shoes, I'd be pissed too. Without Tmac, we would have been western conference cellar dwellers for the last 4 years. Tmac's attitude needs work (toss in some good PR, like knowing when to shut up), but lets not pretend Tmac is the only one that stinks in this debacle.

    This board is full of the most rabid, spiteful, forgetful fans in the NBA, and I fear karma or the basketball gods will haunt our playoffs for a long time.
     
  17. Texasboy1978

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    Without Tracy, we would have had an extra 20 mil to find more talent. I'm pretty sure it's been stated he's not that hard of a worker in practice and he kind of shot himself in the foot when he finally admitted that he didn't do much to rehab after surgery. Not sure why people keep defending or attacking him. I think the trade block was kind of low, but who REALLY knows what's going on?
     
  18. archinkent

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    lol, orlando fans must be laughing at us right now. tmac is on his way to screw another organisation.

    ive also decided to store my tmac figure (the one with him in a dunking motion lol :rolleyes: ), looking at it just makes me depressed.
     
  19. Rockets Jones

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    I just listened to them and it's really a back stabbing move by Tracy. Everybody, except for a few teammates maybe, has tried to make it easy for Tracy by giving him time to rehab during the season, let him take games off, let him get away with not playing defense; he just had to put the bisket in the basket. Now I feel really sorry for the coaches, Rick Adelman in particular who I think has done more for Tracy than we will ever know and more than Tracy will ever realise.

    Look at our record with all that's been going on and we all know there's a lot more going on than we know about. It wouldn't shock me if there have been some really heated word exchanges almost to the point of a scuffle in the lockerroom between whoever, but mainly due to the drama surrounding Tracy. I'm glad it's finally out there that Ron was not the cause of all this but it was in fact our #1 superstar.

    Ironic really if you think about it. Tracy says almost all the right things, not a troublemaker, the pretty faced can't do no wrong smiling vs. Ron who calls out people, is known for being tough, has a track record of being a little crazy at times and is supposedly a troublemaker and out of control. We had all these little things when the trade happened that Yao was worried about Ron, Steven A. Smith asking Tracy about what if Ron goes berserk with Tracy replying he's too old for that and it's about the championship and even to the point where people said he's a time-bomb waiting to go off; TNT, ESPN, Houston Chronicle and the fans were all worried abour Ron when in fact it was Tracy we all should've been worried about that.
    Amazing what an image can do for you......

    P.S. Vernon Maxwell is a whole different story because he himself said he's a time-bomb waiting to go off :)
     
  20. MadMax

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    From Solomon's blog:

    http://blogs.chron.com/jeromesolomon/2009/02/post_80.html

    Is it my imagination or did Rockets head coach Rick Adelman all but lie to us yesterday?

    Adelman was perturbed that Tracy McGrady announced he was having season-ending surgery on his Web site, and rightfully so.

    But in complaining about that, he never mentioned that McGrady called Rockets' trainer Keith Jones and told him that he was leaning toward having the procedure. Or that Jones told the team brass.

    The day after McGrady made the call, Adelman claimed he found out about McGrady's situation in the press, like everybody else. That's the truth, but not the whole truth.

    Adelman acted as if the team had no contact with McGrady and that, we know, is not true. Was it an accident that he left that part out?


    This is the second time this season that Adelman has complained about a player going to the media with a medical issue. He did the same with Ron Artest a while back.

    And guess who Adelman sought out to complain about said player? Yep, the media.


    Criticizing a player for not getting back on defense, or taking bad shots, is one thing. Going to the media to complain about a player going to the media?

    Come on Rick.
     

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