Yes, we talked to him. Again, we let him know that it is ok to defend himself, but not to instigate. I will be talking to the principal tomorrow. I will let you know the details.
Actually, I am an associate and member of PrePaid Legal, so I have access to lawyers. No bluff there. If I say they are going to hear from my attorney, they are going to hear from my attorney.
Well, first that assumes that the bully's parents will bring equal pressure to bear. That is by no means a given. Second, personally I would happily spend the money on an attorney just burn the other parents asses if their kid was bullying mine, and would do that same to a district that refused to distinguish between defending yourself and instigating a fight. Edit: although in fairness my wife is a litigation attorney, so it wouldn't be that expensive
I wonder tho... what do you consider defending? punching for being pushed is a little on the questionable side to me... I was always told that when in a fighting scenario, you allow the other to throw the first punch...then retaliate...then it becomes a clear-cut case of defending oneself. Im not so sure that being pushed is as clear-cut a case to warrant actual punches being thrown. I do however give your kid kudos for standing up to the kid...you cant allow these punks to think they can get away with bullying. A day in detention is a small price to pay for ones self-respect.....
Wow. Just wow. Threaten the school with legal action when you are a teacher. That'll solve the problem. Principles are being completely blown out of proportion here. In School Suspension is detention. Period. It won't go on your kids permanent record. Let it go! The funny part is, regardless of who was at fault, there was a fight. Your son came out on top vs. a bully. That is considered "cool" in school situations. Having Dad come to school to fix it? Not cool. His new status will more than make up for a day of detention. C'mon. You know that. You're just not looking at it rationally. Try doing a poll asking the age range of people who agree with your actions vs. age range of people who disagree. You will be surprised by the results.
FT, I gotta admit, I'm firmly on your side here. I think you should go say something to the school as it's a problem that definitely needs to be addressed. Victims of school bullying have gone on to do much worse things than something that would lead them to ISS for a day. However, I don't see any reason to bring attorneys into this. I could see it if they were expelling or suspending your son, or anything that could go on his permanent record. I just don't see the need here. Good luck with it though and I think you're doing the right thing by not letting the teacher/coach off the hook for not doing his job. Just don't go too far with it.
why bring your home "tools" into this? I don't know what happened to it... maybe you left it somewhere where the threesome gang who came over to your house on Friday used it... ANYWAY... Bring the BULLY into this and have HIS ASS in ISS too. I support the RULES, the SCHOOL, and parents standing up for their kids, and kids standing up for their siblings, but rules override anything, and rules say that someone should have been watching them... it's the SCHOOL's FAULT and you SHOULD fight them for their supervision lack thereof. ME: 1 wife, 2 kids, graduated to become a teacher in the future. Rockets rule.
Never threatened lawsuit. Simply said if I did, I would be able to back it up. I'll be speaking with the principal at 10:30. Those of you thinking that he punched the kid for being pushed around haven't read the updates. He was pinned down and had to hit him to get freed so he could get to the coach. As far as the "cool" thing, these kids are in 2nd grade, not in jr high or high school. I also just found out that there is a "100 day celebration" going on in the afternoon that my boy will miss due to ISS, while the bully gets to go, since he was in morning ISS. You that are saying it's only detention are right. It's no big deal, but the its the principal of the matter that this could have been avoided if the PE teacher had been supervising instead of dorking around with a fem aide. Those of you that say it could have happened anywhere, you're right. It could have, but it didn't. I'll deal with that if it ever comes to that. I am talking about the situation at hand.
I'd let him serve ISS. The last day of school, before my son went into junior high, he wanted to give some payback to some other kid (who was going to a different junior high) that was ragging him the entire year. At the time, my son was a bit chunky and could not catch him. However, my son coolected his friends and even got the other guys friends to build a fence around them, not letting him run away. My son got his payback, when he finally got his hands on him. Before that day, my son approached me and told me what he was going to do. I told him that there are consequences and that the school would not agree with his side, but told him to make his own decision. The day of the fight, the principal called me and I told him that what this kid had done the entire year and my son finally had enough. The prinicipal didn't do anything, being the last day of school. Once they got into high school they became good friends. Kids will be kids.
The situation where your kid broke the rule? I see... What a cop-out. YOUR KID BROKE THE RULE. It's not the teacher's JOB to stop kids from breaking the rules. They can't be everywhere. It's the kid's job not to break them, if teachers are present or not. Both kids broke them. It's not about wrong or right etc. That's just the way it is.
If the situation was caused because a teacher just happened to be looking away and dealing with some other aspect of his job, then I'm sure FT would feel better about letting this go. From the accounts, the teacher wasn't even trying to do his job.
Because people don't get it. Like I said my wife has dealt with stuff for years. Parents don't back up the teachers. It made my life crappy as well. I had to hear every excruciating detail...
Talk to the District Superintendent about the lack of supervision at your kid's school. Don't get brushed off.
Parents don't have to back up the teachers on every situation. So, if you're wife did nothing but sleep in the classroom and let all hell break loose, the parents should back her up?
But she didn't. She tried to supervise. She would contact parents to talk about their kids. The parents would just defend the kids. She was physically harmed by some of these kids who parents did nothing to support her.
So, you think it's a good idea taking your limited experience (one teacher out of thousands) and applying it to all situations? And I didn't say she did that. It was a hypothetical.
