I laugh about this whole 'app list' argument. Seriously, how many apps do you need on a phone? Plus at least a third or more of the iPhone apps are redundant and/or trash. For example, there is a seperate app for every professional and college sports team. So app count doesn't impress me. Besides, WebOS is up to several thousand apps now although not sure the latest count. It would take me years to get through just whats available NOW and they are adding dozens every day. So the "app list" argument is tired.
Awesome. So you use your Google Voice number as your main number now? I just don't want to deal with making sure everyone knows I've switched if I did change it. I've given it out to a handful of people who might need to contact me but I only want to screen them through voice mail first, like sales reps. But no one has contacted me on it for a long time so I guess it's still 'safe' to use as my main number if I change my mind. You mentioned call screening, does it work as a caller id for unknown (ie not in your contact list) numbers? I also use it to call Canada for free! BTW, did you get any accessories for it?
I'm on AT&T and also looking for a new phone. My Tilt is dying and falling apart so they offered me the Tilt2 but the back and weight of the phone is fugly! Stay away from that phone. I am really liking that BB Bold 9700. I suggest you walk into an ATT store and hold that phone in your hand. That is quality at its best! Now the only thing that sucks is that you can't use BB apps and e-mail on WiFi w/o a data plan whereas something like the Tilt2, you can just use WiFi or the GPS chip and you are good to go. The iPhone or Bold 9700 would be the way to go. Nothing tops either of those phones right now on ATT.
Also, forgot to give my 2 cents about the apps you keep mentioning. I haven't used Android yet, but Windows Mobile gives the iTunes store a run for its money. They have some amazing apps and the phones are really customizable. You can even dual boot Windows Mobile and Android on the same phone now so you get both OSes.
No accessories for it at the moment. I previously used a Moto Droid with a case and it was a brick in my pocket, so I'm currently enjoying the thinness of this phone sans case. I'm going to get an armband for it for running outdoors (GPS-enabled running app to track my route, distance, and time + music player while running...Multitasking FTW!). Now let me try to shed a little light on my usage of GV on the phone. I do use it exclusively as my main (and only) phone number now. When I first got an Android phone, I simply texted everyone in my contact list (or called non-texter relatives, etc) and let them know I had a new phone number. I gave them my GV #. When they call it, my cell phone obviously rings. However, the nice thing is that the GV integration allows you to set it so that all outgoing calls from your cell phone will automatically route through GV and your GV # will appear on caller IDs. (You can also set it to ask you before each call connects whether you want to dial out w/ GV or your regular number). Text messages and voicemails get pushed to your phone, so they appear instantaneously. If you text through the GV app, your GV # will appear on your outgoing texts. There is also a setting that allows you to replace every "send text message" shortcut in the phone OS to use GV instead of Android's stock messaging app (which would use your actual phone #). It really is full-integration on the OS level. Call screening: yes, you can set it so that it only screens callers that are not in your contacts list. That's exactly what I do. Before the call connects it will ask the caller to state their name. You can then listen to their name before deciding if you want to connect to the call. You can then connect or send them to voicemail, and you can listen to the voicemail as they are leaving it and pick up and connect to the call at any time. You can also set calls from specific numbers to automatically always go to voicemail and not ring your phone. Or you can straight-up block callers. If you block them, they get the standard "This number has been disconnected..." phone carrier message when they call you. I like this option a lot because I no longer have to be cautious about giving out my cell # because I can just block them and never receive calls from them again. I hope I explained all that understandably. If I didn't, feel free to ask questions or for clarification.
Only to the people who don't have them. You have your pick, two systems. One has a library of 3000 to choose from. The other has a library of 50,000. If everything else is relatively close, you think people would rather take the smaller library? I don't think that's logical at all. It doesn't matter what's good or bad in the list, you have the library large enough to make your own decision. That's the point. Pre is fine and so is WebOS. But there's nothing that puts it leaps and bounds ahead of Android or iPhone to completely negate the library of applications available to the user.
..yet if the markets were switched, you would be harping on how much more of an advantage WebOS had with its bigger library of user apps.
You are thinking about app count in absolute terms when you need to be thinking about it in relative terms. Nobody is ever going to get 1000 apps, but a larger library of apps gives you more options for quality apps that you would want on your phone. If only 5% of the total app market is both very high quality and relevant to your interests, you have thousands of choices on the iPhone, whereas you have maybe 150 for WebOS. Not only that, but the iPhone arguably has the most polished and well supported apps out of any of the major platforms. Download the same app across WebOS, Android, and the iPhone, and there is a very good chance that the iPhone app is going to be the best one out of the three.
Well done, I think I got that all. I may hit you up with some Inc questions after I get it. Next week!
No problem, I'd be happy to email you a few apps that are must-haves, in my opinion, that you won't be able to get on the market.
Get iPhone 4 and keep it or sell it and buy a Nexus One unsubsidized, you'll probably make money after selling the iPhone 4
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and you know this upon how many webos or android apps that you've downloaded? chance of app developer quality is not quantifiable. chances are highly likely that you'll have to filter out more garbage apps to find. webos is neck and neck with ios as far as ui flow (partner has an iphone that i've spent a very great amount of time with). app store has what you need... unless you're looking for the constellation that is presently over your head @ 1:28am. does the app store has what you want? maybe, but leaning toward most likely. developer support is in question, due to the palm buyout and news on the palm front has been overwhelmingly quiet (though rumors are heating up with a new omap4 webos device announcement soon after shareholder vote later this month). lilpun, it doesn't make sense to not get an iphone4 if you're currently with at&t (not sure if you can get this device w/o a data plan. anybody?). palm pre plus would be a very nice alternative due to build quality being a hell of a lot better than sprint's original palm pre. os on each device is fluid. both have wifi, touchscreen, camera (vid cam), and apps. iphone is the prettier phone with more apps. ppp is the true multitasker with a prettier ui notification system. end choice? i'd go with an iphone 4 due to lack of news from palm inc. very doubtful that developer support will decrease due to hp's intent on scaling webos on smartphones, tablets, printers, etc... but what it boils down to is that no one really knows that they have in store for the os besides themselves.
That would be great. You can email me through the board. Did you change the launcher by any chance? Seems like some people have switched Sense for LauncherPro or ADW. And how's battery life? I don't know if that's aimed at me and Franchise3, but we're talking about the Droid Incredible on Verizon.
I don't use att, but I will tell you that if you get a chance to use an android UI, get it. Ive used a Pre(btw...selling mine as soon as I finish getting all my old files off it), messed with friends iphones(not really impressed now that I have used Pre and android) , and now have a EVO 4G (which frikking RAWKS) , and the android is the clear and present winner as far as ease of use, integration of user data and contacts and such. Plus it is quick quick.
I've played with all three OS's (WebOS, iOS, Android) extensively (on a Palm Pre, iPhone, Droid, and Droid Incredible). It's only my opinion, but I can qualitatively say which phones have the better versions of certain apps. I salivated over the Pre when it first came out and highly considered buying it, but ultimately decided against it. WebOS is awesome, but it pales in apps compared to Android and the iPhone. No, this is not really true at all unless you don't know how to use the internet. I'm currently using an Android phone, which arguably has the crappiest options to search the Market for apps, and it's not tough at all to find out what are the good apps. You just search on the internet for reviews.
Do me a favor and just email me through the board when you get the phone, that way I won't forget. I'm sticking with Sense (for now) instead of another launcher. I think it is really well put together, plus you lose the HTC widgets if you use another launcher. Battery life is moderate for a smartphone. I make it through the day with a good amount of decent, mixed usage (~45 min of video at lunch, little bits of internet, news reading, and texting through the day). You'll have to charge it every night, obviously. Heavy usage (hours of video/browser/music/gps) and you'll have to juice it a little during the day to make it. Talk and browsing time is comparable with the iPhone if that will give you a benchmark (but it has far less standby time).
Right now smartphone wise; either Android or the iPhone are the way to go. I prefer Android, but if you're on AT&T, there isn't a legitimate Android phone for you to choose from. There is the N1 but AT&T doesn't subsidize it so you'' have to buy it without contract for $529. If you are willing to do that, it's an amazing phone with some definite advantages over the iPhone (Flash, free wired/wireless tethering, free turn-by-turn GPS, unrestricted multitasking, a less restricted App Store, better homescreen UI IMO, etc...) etc. If you need to get something subsidized on contract, just get the iPhone 4, since AT&T hasn't given any hint at when they will finally bring out some high-end Android phone. I'm on AT&T too, and I'll probably end up getting the iPhone 4 since AT&T lacks any high-end Android devices.
