I would fight if drafted and my country needed me. Luckily not too many people agree with ZRB or we wouldn't be free in the first place.
But just think how wonderful this world would be if <B>everyone</B> agreed with ZRB. Yes, I know it won't ever happen, but it would be nice, right?
on one hand i totally agree... on the other hand, i'd hate to live a life that wasn't worth fighting for.
I think only middle-aged people should be able to fight : (e-mail I received) I've said that if I could, I'd enlist today and help my country track down those responsible for killing thousands of innocent people in New York City and Washington, D.C. But, I'm near 50 now and the Army that I've worked for in the background for almost 35 years says I'm too old to track down terrorists. You can't be older than 35 to join the Army. They've got the whole thing backwards. Instead of sending 18-year-olds off to fight, they ought to take us old guys. You should NOT be able to join until you're at least 35. For starters: Young guys haven't lived long enough to be cranky, and a cranky soldier is a dangerous soldier. If we can't kill the enemy, we'll complain them into submission. "My knee hurts!" "I'm hungry!" "Where's the remote control?" Let me at 'em- If I can't shoot 'em dead I'll whine 'em into submission! Researchers say 18-year-olds think about sex every 10 seconds. Us old guys only think about sex a couple of times a day, leaving us more that 28,000 additional seconds per day to concentrate on the enemy. An 18-year-old hasn't had a legal beer yet and you shouldn't go to war until you're at least old enough to legally drink. I personally had consumed 126,000 gallons of beer by the time I was 35 and a jaunt through the desert heat with a backpack and M-60 would do wonders for the old beer belly. And think of all the money we'd save not having to purify water and purchase MREs. Just give me a 6 pack, a bag of chips, a couple of Oreos, and point me towards Saddam... An 18-year-old doesn't like to get up before 10 a.m. Old guys get up early just to show we can (and to pee). If old guys are captured we couldn't spill the beans because we'd probably forget where we put them. In fact, name, rank, and serial number would be a real brainteaser. Boot camp would actually be easier for old guys. We're used to getting screamed and yelled at and we actually like soft food. We've also developed a deep appreciation for guns and rifles. We like them almost better than naps. The army could lighten up on the obstacle course, however. I've been to a desert before and didn't see a single 20-foot wall with rope hanging over the side. I can hear the Drill Sergeant now, "DROP and give me...er...one." And the running part is kind of a waste of energy. I'm fast enough to have never had Baskin Robbins close before I got at least 3 of their 29 flavors, and, I've never seen anyone outrun a bullet. An 18-year-old has the whole world ahead of him. He's still learning to shave. To actually carry on a conversation. To wear pants without the top of the boxer shorts sticking out. To learn that a pierced tongue catches food particles. And that a 200-watt speaker in the back seat of a Honda Accord can rupture an eardrum. All great reasons to keep our sons at home and to learn a little more about life before sending them off to a possible death. Let us old guys track down those dirty, rotten cowards who attacked our hearts on September 11. The last thing they'd want to see right now is a couple of million old farts with attitudes.
Where did I say that? If you don't have to worry about fighting for your life, you don't have to worry about whether your life is worth fighting for or not. I also believe that ZRB feels very good about his life, and his self-esteem has nothing to do with his pacifist nature.
I was thinking about this very topic yesterday morning. I thought... "hmm, i have nothing going on in my life right now, why not devote myself to help my country by enlisting?" Then I realized I could die and reconsidered rather quickly. I just don't have the stones for it.
Nevermind MadMax...I don't know what we're arguing about. To be quite honest, drapg, I think it takes stones to admit that. I'm afraid I feel the same way, which is why I respect our troops more than they could ever know.
there was one? ("stripes" line i enjoy quoting when i'm confused -- curiously enough, the line has to do with military service!! conicidence? i think not!)
Senseless? So stopping Hitler from murdering millions was senseless? It wouldn't have been so senseless if you were in one of those concentration camps... This war may not be as black/white as WWII was, but at the time people didn't think that Hitler was that big of a threat either. Appeasement never works. How can you be in favor of letting a madman like Saddam stay in power so that he can continue to proliferate WMD to the terrorist groups of the world? Would it take a ANOTHER attack on the US to convince you? Your family to die?
I do see where you are coming from. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, especially other nations. I am not bashing France for opposing us. I just think that they are blindly ignoring some facts. A person like Hussein will only continue to add to the instability of the world. France has ALWAYS been passive, they allow the evils of the world to walk all over them. Men like Hussein do not want peace. France is passive to the point that they put their own country in harms way and the bash other countries that are trying to protect themselves. It is very tough to be proactive, it makes you look like an overbearing superpower/bully. Before 9-11 I would have been very concerned with something like this going on. Now I feel that someone who posses a threat to the US must be equalized. Iraq, Iran and N. Korea are all big problems. Mainly because they have/will sell their technology to other countries/terrorist groups. I just can't stand by and wait for something else to happen to this country. Why does everyone think that we shouldn't attack until we have been attacked? Does 9-11 not count anymore? I think that the US has every damn right to stop any further attacks and countries like Iraq are only going to increase those chances that an attack will succeed. What will everyone say when the US is attacked again? ranting brought to you by my root canal yesterday and the number 17.
Exactly Cohen. I think France just enjoys giving us the middle finger more than anything. This is the hardest I have ever seen them work at something.
