At what point do the Stros consider trading Beltran?

You consider trading Beltran in about 10 years when his hall of fame career is winding down. Just like they need to do with Bags right now.

 

What's even worse is Doggy's performance with the Mutts. He looks like his 2001 self again.

 

With Hidalgo, you have to evaluate his performance over the long haul. he has been incredibly streaky this year. In April, he looked like his 2000 (that was his 44 HR season, not 2001) self. In May and June he looked like his 2001, 2002 self.

 

Ok, nevertheless, Doggy is looking like stud right now. The hitting coach should also be fired when they fire Jimy.

 

Package Beltran with Bagwell, in a salary dump.
Trade Clemens (with his ok) for prospects.

It's time to tear this sucker down and rebuild.

New lineup
New coach
New owner (ok, I can dream, can't I)

 

I'm sure if we packaged Bagwell along with Beltran we could trade them to a contender. I don't think we would get anything back though.

 

Worthless? Possibly. Done? Definitely. Should retire? Absolutely!

As usual you completely missed my point. My POINT here is that the Astros should be about the business of trying to keep a 5 tool 27 year old player instead of "renting" him for the remainder of this season while keeping Bagwell who's not the answer for the future. Sure his contract is big but there are always ways around that. Instead, what will happen is that they will trade Beltran and keep Bagwell and next year will be a continuation of the past 2 years of watching Bagwell play less and less OK and not be a factor in helping this team's succeed all the while offering the usual legion of excuses why he is really not as bad as he looks.

I truly hate to admit this but they need to take a lesson from the Texas Rangers and go with younger CHEAPER players who can ACTUALLY run, field, catch and most important of all HIT.

 

Agreed. Can't blame this trainwreck on Drayton. Now Hunsiker, Williams and the coaching staff is a different story altogether...

 

Wha???

How is Hunsicker to blame???

Dude is one of the best GMs in baseball.