I like Verlander but the money is just too much. I did see someone post Verlander and Justin Wilson for Martes, Marisnick, Paulino, and the older Tucker. Plus Tigers add a bunch of cash.
I would get whiplash from nodding my head so fast to say "yes". I guess it really depends on the cash aspect, but I don't know their budget forecast for the next couple of years.
Agreed. For the reasons you stated, that's why I mentioned that the acquisition cost (in terms of prospects) shouldn't be ridiculous. I'm still hoping for Archer, even though I understand it's improbable at this point.
Clearly I meant "#s" in relation to spot in the rotation, given both the post I was responding to ("And a #3 is not worth some of these packages that are being thrown out.") as well as when I said this: "I think people are getting waaaaaaaaay too caught up in #s. It doesn't matter where he slots in our rotation..." Not to mention, you know, my using stats throughout my many replies. Anything of substance to add?
Agreed. I don't want to settle here. Either go big (a legit ace or ace-lite, that we can confidently throw out there in the playoffs and hope for the best (we'll hopefully make it first), or simply stand pat and let the several options we have work itself out.
If we can get Degrom from the Mets we will make it to the WS. He had some big games in the playoffs back in 2015.
When looking at the mets roster, thought it was funny they are still paying Beltran, 3.1 million this year and 3.1 million next year. Dude got the best of them for sure....anyway I'm in the camp that thinks they would move him, but the price would be steep They have Wheeler, Synder, Matz, Gsellman all at least two more years, they have huge holes at 3B and one OF spot moving forward Bregman Paulino Fisher Teoscar Daz Not sure that gets it done or not, but I wouldn't go any more than that. Couldn't put Martes or Tucker in if Bregman involved, and don't think it gets done without Alex.
FYI, Jose Quintana in his last 5 starts: 4-1; 1.78 ERA; 1.09 WHIP; 9K/9; 3.26 FIP. He had two god-awful starts to end May (15 ER in 7 IP) but otherwise, since April 21 (13 starts): 3.84 ERA; 1.25 WHIP; 9.3K/9; 3.52 FIP. Take out those two glaring eye sore starts: 2.31 ERA; 1.11 WHIP; 8.6K/9; 3.12 FIP.
Three more years of cheap (relative) control 32+ starts every year since he came up In 16 starts this year he has gotten into the 6th inning 12 times, into the 7th 7 times Question is are we willing to move both Martes and Tucker + other pieces for him I'll admit that before the season I was in the no way crowd....but with us being the best team in baseball, having a legitimate chance to win the whole thing, and only Beltran and Luke being free agents after the year....I would package those two with some lower guys and go for it on Q
Sustained, consistent success. No injury-history. Great contract. Still relatively young. He's exactly the type of guy you go all-in for, but his start to 2017 made that impossible. Politically, you can't sell the farm for a guy with an ERA over 5, no matter what the peripherals are saying. But now, he's back in the game.
Martes, Tucker, Moran, Paulino. That's what I think would be fair for both sides. But neither side would probably want to do that deal. With Cespedes, Lagares, and Conforto, their OF should be set for a few years (especially if they get Tucker).
Agreed. it's good for him that he's bounced back but I can't see them trading Ktuck for that guy now.
I heard they are still paying Bobby Bonnilla 1m each year for the next 10 more years...lol He's been retired since 2000.
I would do that deal, to get deGrom and not give up Bregman, basically losing no one to FA after this year... As for the Mets OF, I seriously doubt they are looking at Lagares as the long term answer in the OF, over 1,400 at bats and an ops around .660... adding a good bat to the other two is likely a priority in any big trade along with 3B I just don't see the mets doing anything without Alex in there
1.2 million per year....still paying Saberhagen a quarter million a year More athletes should do that type of deal. Secures them long term
