If you moved Stassi in a deal for Realmuto, you keep McCann this year and he gets 2-3 starts per week still behind the plate. Realmuto catches 3-4 times and maybe DH a day every other week. Keeps the clubhouse happy, McCann helps Realmuto with the staff and the team gets better
Hadn't thought of trading Stassi for Realmuto...not a bad idea at all. Stassi has 4 years left of team control after this year, so Miami gets an immediate and long term replacement. Add in a combo of prospects not including Tucker, Whitley or Alvarez and we might be able to get there.
Instead of Realmuto, what do y'all think about trading for Salvador Perez from the Royals? I realize he's having a down year offensively but he's always been a great defensive catcher and he's signed through 2021 on very reasonable deal (~$11M/year) and he's still only 28. Not to mention he's had WS experience (he was the WS MVP in 2015). He would be cheaper than Realmuto prospect wise and as awesome as it would be to have a great hitting catcher like Realmuto, we don't necessarily need one.
Our Motto should be no holes. We are that DEEP! Realmuto for a plethora of minor leaguers not including Alvarez, Tucker, or Whitley. Stassi as well. He is coming back to Earth as will Kemp. Get Realmuto and bring up Tucker and we are dominant 1-9 again. Few teams have had this opportunity without gutting their minor leagues. GET IT DONE.
With Luhnow saying Tucker likely comes up soon and the willingness too bring up Whitley as a reliever. There’s so many options for filling out a postseason 25, do the Astros even pull a deal? 1. Springer 2. Bregman 3. Altuve 4. Correa 5. Yuli 6. Tucker 7. Gattis 8. McCann 9. Reddick 10. Stassi 11. Marwin 12. Kemp 1. Verlander 2. Cole 3. Keuchel 4. Morton 5. McCullers 6. Giles 7. Devo 8. Rondon 9. Peacock 10. McHugh 11. Sipp 12. Harris The competition for that final spot amongst J. Smith, Whitley, Fisher, J.D., Marisnick, Martes, Hoyt, etc
Sorry but McCann and Stasi will be black holes in the playoffs. The Yankees and Red Sox are better than last year. We should trade for realmuto, bring up Tucker, and ride with marisnik as our fifth outfielder. Kemp is nice but his defense is poor. If Tucker is up kemp becomes next to useless. I would love backend bullpen help, but if we are historically good 1-9, then McCullers to the pen will do.
I HIGHLY doubt we could land Realmuto without giving up Alvarez, Tucker or Whitley. You're talking about 4-5+ WAR catcher in his price still under club control until 2021...the guy has an OPS north of .900. I don't know where people are getting we can somehow get this done without trading our top three prospects but I can promise you it won't happen. Edit: So once again I go back to my idea of Perez (KC might not even make him available) because the packages being thrown around in this thread without giving up Alvarez, Tucker or Whitley may not land Realmuto but could possibly land Perez. I wouldn't call Perez a black hole either if you look at his body of work the past couple of years prior to this one.
1) Alcides Escobar has a 115 wrc+ in the postseason, despite a career 70 WRC+. In other words, you can't really predict who will be a black hole. 2) There's no guarantee you can even get Realmuto without including one of those players.
What makes realmuto great is his being a catcher. He is no Machado or Abreu. Teams looking to make a giant impact on their offense won't be looking to realmuto. What makes him so valuable to us is he replaces the only hole in our lineup. Our competition for him is limited to only a few teams where he would make a discernible difference in the playoffs. I don't think it is at all a given that it will take a top prospect for him. A quantity deal with 2 or 3 upside potential prospects like Pauline, martes, fisher etc. has a chance
Realmuto is valuable to every team; he has an fWAR of 2.9 and a WRC+ of 150. In comparison, Machado has an fWAR of 2.8 and WRC+ of 149 and Jose Abreu an fWAR of 0.6 and a WRC+ of 115. So: all-star level offense & he plays the most valuable defensive position & he has two years of control left. That's gonna cost an enormous haul.
Teams have attempted to partake in trade discussions with the Marlins and thus far the demands have been viewed as unreasonable. People say the Marlins didn't get much for Stanton, but the Marlins had to move him. They can be patient with Realmuto. Also, the Astros could lose 4 of their 5 starting pitchers in the next 18 months so I don't see them making catcher a priority when they have Stassi and Stubbs hitting 350 in AAA.
My thoughts exactly - hypothetically though would you trade a package of something like Fisher, Martes, and JD Davis for Salvador Perez?
It would depend on payroll ramifications. Perez makes over 40,000,000 over the next three seasons. I can have Max Stassi over the same period of time for roughly 33,000,000 less for that same period of time. Can I sign Verlander or Cole (or both) if I keep Stassi over Perez? These are not easy questions to answer.
With Bryce Harper's struggles this season, I wonder if NYY is honing in on Machado instead. I hope Machado is NL bound...maybe to CHC or even WAS. I could see a sleeper like ATL or ARI come out of nowhere to snag him, too. Honestly, wouldn't surprise me to see SEA move for him as well. I'm assuming BAL is really reluctant to trade to NYY, but we'll have to wait to see where he ends up. Would be a stupid fun rental: Springer, CF Altuve, 2B Machado, 3B Correa, SS Bregman, LF Yuli, 1B Gattis, DH Tucker, RF McCann/Stassi, C
Nobody thought Stasi or Stubbs would.be a plus offensively this year or ever for that matter and I think Stasi. Is reverting back to the mean. We Will see if the marlins will hold out for a kings ransom for realmuto but I would send them a whole lot not named tucker, alvarez, or Whitley and make them think twice. I predict before years end both McCann and Stasi will be sub 230. I never want to go back to Castro land.
