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Astros Trade option(s)

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by ZeroPoint, Apr 14, 2017.

  1. Snake Diggit

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    Who’s “they”?
     
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  2. Mr.Pringles

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    I really doubt Astros pull a deal for Realmuto during this season.

    McCann and Stassi are both outstanding behind the plate and Stassi can hit as well. I’m more than ok giving Stassi a long look for 2019 starter. There’s plenty of FA catchers who would be of great value as a backup. If Luhnow decides Stassi is better suited as a backup then you look to pull a Realmuto deal.
     
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  3. astros123

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    How many damn games have we lost due to our bullpen
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    Let's talk after this game.
     
  5. tmactoyao

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    Wonder if the A's would give up Treinen. Idk his contract situation but A's always do A's things regarding the cap. His sinker is filthy. He might regress but looks like he might be on the verge of dominant consistency since coming to Oakland
     
  6. SKYGODZ187

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    Blake Trenian
    2018: $2.15 million, 2019-2020: Arb. Eligible, 2021: Free Agent
    He might cost alittle but because of the control ability but shouldn't be that much. Would love to have him.
    Would almost think you would have to add one of our bullpen guys to the deal to create an open spot... example
    Blake Trenian for Will Harris and 2 minor league Prospects...

    Same goes for any addition for the bull pen.
    Kelvin Herrera for Ken Giles and 2 minor league prospects.

    Zach Britton for Tony Sipp and 2 minor league prospects. It would have to be addition by subtraction in that case.

    I still think the Astros will add 2 arms and a bat.
    I'll make a wild prediction.
    Watch for Manny Machado and Zach Brittton...Moving Bregman to LF and subbing for the INF...
    LUNHOW is a wild man and makes crazy out of no where trades. Watch for something that makes you go and the rest of the league go Holy Crap this is unfair
     
  7. Hemingway

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    I think Machado goes to the Yankees. We will make a move for a bullpen arm or two. I think the jury is still out on whether we get a bat,since Gattis seems to have come around. They'll give it to the trade deadline to see if Gonzalez and one of Jake, Davis, Fisher, or Tucker can pull it together in the big leagues. I suspect Kemp will also come back to the pack a bit.
     
  8. Snake Diggit

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    Jose Abreu and Kelvin Herrera are the two guys that make the most sense to me. Abreu for AJ Reed, Josh James, and Derek Fisher. Herrera for Corbin Martin and James Hoyt.
     
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    KC would take Giles for Herrera straight up before Lunhow had a chance to change his mind. That's an awful trade suggestion.

    Harris probably doesn't move the needle much for Oakland, as he doesn't have as much team control as Treinen, and if they move him, it'll be for long term pieces. You might be able to orchestrate a 3 team deal where Harris goes to Cleveland or something, but it's still probably not going to make Treinen cheap.
     
  10. awc713

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    The arms on the market aren't a substantial upgrade from Giles. The type of lock-down closer fans want isn't available. Herrera, Hand, and Iglesias are all nice, no doubt. I think our best option is probably (and not the sexiest answer) to supplement Giles internally.

    I once thought this suggestion was asinine (and it still may be) but LMJ at closer may be the long-term answer HOU has been looking for. With our current starting rotation, he certainly could be the short-term answer at closer.

    A playoff rotation of Verlander, Cole, CFM, and Kuechel, with Peacock, Devinski, McHugh, Giles, Harris, Smith in the middle, and LMJ at the end is ferocious. It's downright stupid, if not unfair. I just think that may be the move over adding, who? Kelvin Herrera? Brad Hand? I'm just not sold on them being the answer. And for how much they'll likely cost...no thanks.
     
  11. Snake Diggit

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    I agree with this, but of course it depends on the cost. If the asking price for a guy like Herrera is 2 prospects in the back end of the org top 10, it makes sense to add. If teams are holding out for Tucker/Whitley/Alvarez for decent (but not great) players, it makes more sense to do as you said. Same goes for adding a bat. If they can add an elite bat like Abreu without giving up Tucker/Whitley/Alvarez, they should. If the price is too high, give Tucker/White/Davis/Kemp/Fisher/Straw/Reed/Ferguson a chance.
     
  12. Joe Joe

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    Starters are too valuable. That said, during the postseason, I don't expect the regular season closer to usually close. I expect Astros 4th and 5th starters to handle a significant load of the playoff high leverage relief innings.
     
  13. SKYGODZ187

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    There are a boat load of closer better then Giles. He is a turd know a days.
    I think Giles worn out his welcome and that's kinda what's wrong with the pen. But that's me.
    Saying those guys aren't better then him, that's asinine. Just saying. Giles hasn't bounced back from any funk cant strike no one out just squeezes by
     
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    The first time Herrera blew a save you would be suggesting trade ideas for Hector Neris or some other random closer

    Herrera would be nice, but Giles plus others for him is just dumb

    Thank God the people on here aren’t making moves for the Astros
     
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    Herrera seems good, but didn't he have a rough stretch towards the end of last year? Not sure he's an upgrade from Giles, who should be used strictly in SAVE SITUATIONS ONLY. If we trade for a closer, I'd prefer one who isn't shaky, and who isn't a rental.
     
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    Giles is such a mystery to me. He seems to have the most hittable fastball in the majors (for back end of the bullpen guys) but an unhittable slider. I wonder if he tipping his fastball some way. FB command is very hit and miss with him. I wonder if he might be better throwing with less velocity to command it better. For instance I didn' think he made bad pitches the other night against the Red Sox, but they seemed so comfortable in the box against his FB.
     
  17. SKYGODZ187

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    My thing with Giles is. Simple he needs to calm him self. Or he needs a new town to pitch in. Simple as that. He is becoming Brad Lidge towards the end of his career.with out the SO.
    Sorry but trying to keep him as a closer isn't smart. He needs to set up for alittle while or go to a new team and start over.there is clearly something going on. He might be tipping his pitches. Never know but I can say he isn't who he was
     
  18. bobrek

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    Ironically, the only job he is doing well this year, is closing out a game in a save situation. He has been bad in tie games, "out of hand games" and "get in some work games".
     
  19. tmacfor35

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    Whitley may make an appearance this year for the Astros as a relief guy.

    Astros need a bat.
     
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    Also, there is almost no chance in hell there will even be a phone conversation with Baltimore. You can forget Britton or anyone else over there.
     

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