http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=456422 http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/teams/phi/stats/bycategory?cat=Batting&type=0 2007 105 G 119 AB 18 SB 1 CS .348 OBP .378 SLG .277 AVG .727 OPS Full Name: Michael Ray Bourn Born: 12/27/1982 Birthplace: Houston, TX Height: 5'11" Weight: 180 Bats: Left Throws: Right College: Houston MLB Debut: 07/30/2006
The only thing that tempers my expecations about the Phillies prospect we got back is his ASTRO-nomical strikeout rate. You don't normally start striking out less once you get to the big leagues...
Okay, fellas. Just got the lowdown from a new employee that just moved here from Philly and is a diehard Phillies fan. He doesn't know much about the prospect that we got. He said that Bourn has great speed but is a terrible hitter that won't produce on a daily basis. He also said Geary is a joke of a pitcher and that we got ripped off. Take it for what it's worth, as he is a Philly native and they hate everyone. However, it seems to me that we could have gotten more for Brad Lidge. Glad we traded him, but I don't like this deal, based on what I have read and heard.
I'm beating a dead horse, but I would prefer an OF of Lee/Pence/Scott to Lee/Bourn/Pence - I'm probably in the minority. That said, if they can turn Scott into a quality starter, overall it would be a good deal for the Astros.
but if we end up signing cordero as a result of unloading lidge....then the deal makes sense because, in essence, he becomes part of the trade not to mention that Bourne is a guy who basically filled in late innings for burrell...and never really had a shot to play everyday
I think it's funny that so many people here except for Aces tore Lidge apart all season and begged for a trade... and now thinks that we could have gotten more for him! If this Philly fan is judging Born solely off the 150 or so at bats he had last season, then he's missing it. Even amidst that, he batted .277 and got about base at about a .350 clip, in his first look at big league pitching. More importantly...he's great defense up the middle. And we didn't have to spend a fortune to get it.
As in we got hosed? that's what the philly guy in my office is saying. he was a 10 year phillies season ticket holder, and he was shocked that they gave so little for lidge's potential. I'm kind of shocked that with only one big closer on the free agent market that we unloaded Brad so quickly. Hopefully Bourn turns into Willie T part deaux EDIT: MadMax, I didn't expect an all-star for Lidge. I know his value is down, as it should be. BUT, the current closer market could have dictated a better trade if we had waited and talked w/ other teams (I am assuming we didn't do a lot of this b/c the deal was done so quickly, but of course I could be wrong)
Actually, I've heard Wade say they are going after Linebrink rather than Cordero. As for this deal, it's a wait and see move. This means Luke Scott is on the out (ugh) so he'll probably be traded for something.
Erm, I'm hoping for much more than that from him, especially with regards to plate discipline and defense.
which 9th inning homerun into the crawford boxes would you like me to refference to remind why we did?
Great pick up,...Great choice for a starting CF considering everything...Good move...The outfield gets better defensive range and speed!
i don't think lidge has near the trade value you guys do, apparently. this is a guy who was moved in and out of the closer role all season. who performed far better as a setup guy than a closer. but who is being paid like a closer. why would anyone expect more than this?
I am not saying that we should not have traded Lidge. I am all for trading him. Perhaps I wasn't clear with my posts. I wanted Lidge to be traded. I just felt that with only one viable free agent closer on the market, we could have used that to our advantage and made a better trade. I hope I'm wrong and Bourn turns out to be the CF solution and the others play well. All I have to go on are stats and what the Philly fan in my office says. EDIT: Max, I know Lidge is what he is, but a lot of teams (allegedly) think he still has the potential to be a dominant closer (I don't, personally). If that is indeed the case, it just seems like we could have received a better deal considering there were not good free agent closers available for teams to sign Obviously I am not a GM and don't know what went on, I just feel like we rushed it.
