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Astros sign Jed Lowrie

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by J.R., Dec 15, 2014.

  1. sealclubber1016

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    Unless Correa absolutely obliterates AA and AAA, the soonest he will be here is a month into the 2016 season. If he does wreck shop there is an outside chance he may be here late this season. Given the way arbitration works, there is no way Opening Day 2016 is his first game.
     
  2. Joe Joe

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    Prepare to be disappointed. Astros probably bring him up a couple weeks after start of 2016 if not up in September.
     
  3. Nick

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    If Correa doesn't obliterate AA or AAA (which I doubt he'll be there much, if at all), it would actually be more disappointing than anything else you just said.

    Additionally, he could sign (or be coerced to sign) a arbitration bypass deal which would get him promoted sooner.... same sort of deal Springer didn't sign and Singleton did.
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    Correa hasn't obliterated any level he's played at, but he's ultimately succeeded at every level. Just because he doesn't post a 900 OPS right out of the gate at CC, it wouldn't be a cause for major concern.
     
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    I consider leading the Midwest League in OPS despite being the 2nd youngest to be obliterating the league (granted other players were ahead of them, but didn't qualify due to promotions to A+).

    2016 is a full year away...
     
  6. sealclubber1016

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    And it took him half the season to get to that level, his OPS was under 800 for a large part of the season. While very good, that is most certainly not dominating.

    I think he's gonna be a superstar, but there's been an adjustment period at every level, and I fully expect there to be one this season too.
     
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    I figured Correa would get a cup of coffee this September, and then break camp with the Astros in 2016. I still believe this to be the case, but we shall see.
     
  8. HTown_DieHard

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    From Evan Drellich's write up

    As I said, Correa gets his cup of coffee in 2015, and then things get VERY exciting in 2016.
     
  9. Nick

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    The bottom line is that the organization will likely not withhold him if he's posting 1.090 OPS at AA or AAA like they did that other guy.... and I actually believe Luhnow this time around when he says he could have the special ones skipping levels. He would have already completed a half season at AA without the injury... presuming he's fully healed and hits well at AA, there's no reason to hold him back that extra half season simply due to the injury.

    We gotta get half this board to get out of nickel/dime mode with this team (I honestly think some of you like the tantric act of holding back prospects, and keeping the payroll within reason as if its your money)... if he's ready to go, you promote him.

    I honestly couldn't care less about arbitration/free agency years for these young guys, as that would be a time when there could be an entirely new regime/system in place in the front office (and I think the front office knows this as well). Plus, with the way the special ones are getting locked up now (Trout, Stanton), you don't let Correa even get to the arbitration years before giving him the mega-deal (presuming he's all that).
     
  10. Nick

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    I'd say he dominated last year.

    No player dominates an entire season from start to finish at every level. There's always slow starts/fast starts/sluggish middles/etc.... so if he starts off slow, but ends up as an OPS leader, I consider that domination.
     
  11. sealclubber1016

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    Last season he had an adjustment too, only posting a sub .800 OPS through the first month and a half. Then he started destroying the league, the same way he started slow and then started wrecking at QC
     
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    i read carlos does not like playing ball in the cold...
     
  13. Nick

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    Bags was a slow starter as well. Sometimes its more than just adjusting to the competition... its getting everything to click with your mechanics, vision and reflexes.

    Kid shows adaptability... maturity... leadership... and he's damn marketable. Crane could make up the extra year arbitration $$$ difference in ticket sales/merchandise alone if he lives up to his calling in the show.

    Poor Jed... can't even get past page 3 before he's being replaced (much like he will be replaced in year 3 of his contract).
     
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    Its funny in 6 months Lowrie has went from Astros public enemy #1 to a guy we just paid $23 million to come play for us again.
     
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    A lot of that was buffoonery by Porter, not real tension or problems caused by Lowry... it still shocks me how far off the front office was by hiring him to begin with.

    Most likely their biggest blunder of the entire rebuild.
     
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    regardless of what luhnow said at bo's hiring presser... i think bo was hired to be fired. a stop gap.
     
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    He was a good scapegoat for all of the losing.
     
  18. sealclubber1016

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    No he wasn't. Everybody acknowledged his record this year wasn't the problem, even the Astros.

    He was not on the same page with Luhnow, and like or not in this organization the front office dictates a lot of what goes on. The manager of this team has even less control than most, the team has certain tendencies and lineups they want to see used in games.

    And FWIW I think we are all in agreement that he was a very poor in game tactician, but we can also agree this team performed about as well as could be expected record wise.

    ... and how about that Jed Lowrie signing guys LOL .
     
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Astros?src=hash">#Astros</a> have yet to announce corresponding move. I expect Petit to be DFA'd, barring an unexpected trade. Should be announced soon.</p>&mdash; House Of Houston (@HouseOfHouston) <a href="https://twitter.com/HouseOfHouston/status/544859458871263232">December 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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    I think Porter did a good job with shifts. I think this is why he was hired. Other areas he was weak.
     

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