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Astros release Shane Reynolds

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Master Baiter, Mar 27, 2003.

  1. Major

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    This is ridiculous - we already had a depth problem and now we release Reynolds? Why not keep one of the two young guys on the backburner for the inevitable injury that we'll face somewhere down the road?

    It's better to have 3 bad pitchers than only 2.
     
  2. BobFinn*

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    It is a shock but from all reports, Redding has been fantastic this spring and Robertson has been just as good. Reynolds would probably break down during the season anyway, so why not go with the younger pitchers, they are the future of this organization.
     
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  4. Major

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    It is a shock but from all reports, Redding has been fantastic this spring and Robertson has been just as good. Reynolds would probably break down during the season anyway, so why not go with the younger pitchers, they are the future of this organization.

    That's fine if you only need 5 starting pitchers, but when's the last time this organization got through a season without any starting pitcher injuries?
     
  5. BobFinn*

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    We did sign Bruce Chen, he could start if needed.
     
  6. Castor27

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    Yep and Munro could always spot start too.

    CK
     
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    So can Saarloos. And Jared Fernandez

    This was a good move, in my opinion. Remember, we had 4 guys competing for the 5-spot in the rotation. It's not like we had a shortage of potential starters.
     
  8. UTweezer

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    i'd have to disagree. As good as a person and a ballplayer Shane has been for us, Redding has more potential. Now lets hope he can get his head straight and use his talent.
     
  9. Rockets10

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    perhaps it was good for baseball reasons, we'll just have to wait and see, but i feel bad for shane. he got screwed. he signed a completely incentive laden contract in the off-season b/c the astros said they were going to give him a chance to proove he was worthy of the big bucks. that contract was worth almost 6 million in incentives. now, of course, he gets none of that and will likely sign somewhere else for the minimum or something. he could have made a few million guaranteed if he signed somewhere else originally.

    now the issue for me isn't that shane wont get some money eventually somewhere, it's how we treated him. the astros have generally been one of the few teams left that cared about loyalty, but we just screwed the guy this time. we promised him a chance, and then we dumped him at the last second. that pisses me off. :mad:
     
  10. Mr. Mooch

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    Obvioulsy Reynolds can't handle much baseball right now, and maybe he can only give a couple of good innings.

    Why not just keep him as a bench player or stick him in the bullpen, which isn't that solid either.

    He has veteran experience, but I am shocked for the sole reason that he could've help the youngsters out like with Ausmus. Ausmus can't hit worth sh!te, but he's got great defensive skills.

    Reynolds could still have given something to this team. I think there has to be more to this story than just releasing him.
     
  11. WoodlandsBoy

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    I smell a trade comming. I hope we don't plan on going with Redding and Robertson. Any way Munroe is my pick to 4th starter.
     
  12. xiki

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    This cuts payroll with R & R getting bupkis and earning same?

    I had hoped Shane R would be better for having been physically rebionicked.

    Where to Shane, where to 'stros?
     
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    I believe our opening day starter 2 years ago was Scott Elarton. I could be wrong though.

    Shocking! is the right word to convey my sentiment on this news. I have always liked Mr Reynolds - he has been a horse for this franchise. Hardworking and reliable untill he started having his recent injury bouts.

    I wish Shane Reynolds all the best in whatever he chooses to do in the future.

    Talking about Tim Redding and Kirk Saaloos, I have not been very impressed with them. Maybe this is their opportunity to show their worth all over again. Remember the young Phenom, Carlos Henandez, will be back next season (hopefully). We have aboundant arms but only 2 true gems. I wish JRobertson and Redding can become gems also real soon.
     
  14. Drewdog

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    I was definitely surprised by this move. I thought Shane would have given us some solid veteran leadership and he still is a handy starter. I dont know anything about the surgery he went through, and I didnt follow spring training close at all. I guess he must have shown some serious signs that he a) hasnt recovered or b) simply doesnt have it this year to compete.

    I wish him luck.... I always liked SR.
     
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    Perhaps Jimy/Gerry decided they liked Shane and wanted to start him off at AAA to give the young ones a chance. Maybe Shane didn't want to do that so he asked to be released, and given his track record and what he has done for this team, they granted it to him. I certainly would have prefered to keep him around at least until we see if Redding can actually sustain the kind of mental focus he needs to be successful in The Show, but if Shane didn't feel like getting demoted, I can understand letting him go.
     
  16. BobFinn*

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    Here is the reason for his release Raven:

    "I didn't really expect it to happen this way," Reynolds told local FOX affiliate KRIV-TV. "Honestly, I had no idea that I was supposed to come to Spring Training having to make the team. Therefore I took what I needed and what I thought was the best time and the best way to get myself ready for my first start during the (regular) season.

    "I am not going to say anything bad about the Astros' organization. I owe them a lot. I do think that it was a little bit of a misrepresentation when I did sign as far as what I needed to do in Spring Training. They could have said, 'you have to make the team.'

    "My thoughts, my workout programs, my mental preparation would have been totally different as far as getting outs instead of working on stuff I need to work on."

    And some teamates reactions:

    The best way to describe the reaction of Reynolds' teammates is shock. A few hinted that Reynolds, a veteran, should have been given more time to prove that he had recovered from his surgery.

    "A lot of times things happen in this game that you don't understand," Jeff Bagwell said. "This is one of them. Big time. I don't understand it. He was our third starter. Everybody knew that. I don't know where this is coming from. He's a veteran.

    "The last time I checked, the back of a baseball card doesn't have Spring Training stats on them."

    Added Brian Hunter: "He's one of the hardest working guys and most loyal people, right? A lot of things happen in baseball that you don't expect. This has to be one of the most unexpected."

    Catcher Brad Ausmus admitted he was "having a hard time wrapping my brain around it." Ausmus had just seen Reynolds in the Astros' clubhouse prior to the team's departure to the Braves' Disney complex. Reynolds, who was scheduled to remain in Kissimmee to pitch in a minor league game over the weekend, was not making the trip to the Braves' ballpark, so it did not strike his teammates as unusual that he was not on the team bus.

    "The last thing I said to him was 'see you in a few days,'" Ausmus said. "Obviously, he didn't know either at that point."

    Said Craig Biggio: "I guess 'confused' is the word. Shane's meant a lot to this organization and this team and really worked hard to get back. We thought he was going to be our number three starter. He's meant a lot to these young pitchers and helped them out a lot.

    "We've been together for 13 years, good times and bad times. Like a lot of guys, I'm just very, very confused right now."
     
  17. Oski2005

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    This sucks. It'll be an even worse decision if Shane catches on somewhere else and shows that he's still a capable starter. Man, they should have given him a chance or at least warned him that his job was in jeapordy. You get the feeling that they just didn't want to pay him.
     
  18. Puedlfor

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    I don't know about anyone else, but I kind of asusmed his career was over after he got hurt. I thought the Astros took a big risk by signing him, and I think the Astros are the only team with a chance at .500 or greater ball that would've done so.

    I mean, this was not a minor injury he had.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    I guess the players should realize that if they don't perform up to par, they will be gone too.

    A little fear never hurts a team like the Stros, they have been too complacent.

    DD
     
  20. Preston27

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    This has been quite a bold offseason for the Astros, from signing Kent to releasing Reynolds.

    I wish Reynolds the best.
     

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