1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Astros Player movement thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by jim1961, Jun 18, 2013.

  1. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    113,932
    Likes Received:
    175,350
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Astros option DeLeon, Marwin Gonzalez recalled</p>&mdash; Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) <a href="https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/statuses/367521177436053505">August 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  2. bobloblaw

    bobloblaw Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2013
    Messages:
    4,637
    Likes Received:
    1,564
    I agree with optioning DeLeon, but calling up Gonzalez? I guess they need insurance at 2B/SS with Altuve's quad and Villar's thumb injury, which may or may not still be an issue.
     
  3. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,570
    Likes Received:
    7,094
    The same guy who pitched 1 inning and only gave up the one triple and struck out 2?
     
  4. cardpire

    cardpire Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    769
    yes. same guy.
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 1999
    Messages:
    36,288
    Likes Received:
    26,645
    Same guy who's splits against left handed hitters are:

    .310/.375/.488/.863
     
  6. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,570
    Likes Received:
    7,094
    Career splits vs. LHB:

    .238/.320/.352

    Somehow he's struggling against lefties and finding success against righties this year. Strange year for him.
     
  7. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,570
    Likes Received:
    7,094
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rangers&amp;src=hash">#Rangers</a> acquire LHP Travis Blackley from <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Astros&amp;src=hash">#Astros</a> for cash considerations. He goes on Triple-A Round Rock roster.</p>&mdash; MLBRosterMoves (@MLBRosterMoves) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBRosterMoves/statuses/367700227236454400">August 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    Jim Crane is getting that paper.
     
  8. cardpire

    cardpire Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    769
    damn. am i the only one who is curious as hell about what's going on with bedard behind the scenes?
     
  9. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,570
    Likes Received:
    7,094
    Very curious. He'll definitely be claimed (if he hasn't been already). Just a matter of if that team is going to give us anything.
     
  10. cardpire

    cardpire Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    769
    MLBTR says we're getting a PTBNL in addition to cash for Blackley.
     
  11. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,570
    Likes Received:
    7,094
    Both ways have been reported. Tags is probably the most official I've seen, and he said PTBNL + Cash.
     
  12. cardpire

    cardpire Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    769
    that must be one terrible, terrible PTBNL
     
  13. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,570
    Likes Received:
    7,094
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Just got this from the man himself - Jeff Luhnow: &quot;All PTBNL transactions have an 'or cash' component to them.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jose de Jesus Ortiz (@OrtizKicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/OrtizKicks/statuses/367707697635786752">August 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
    <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    I think I'd rather have cash than the PTBNL for a 30 year old minor leaguer who they could have had for free last week if they wanted him on their active roster.
     
  14. The Beard

    The Beard Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    11,370
    Likes Received:
    7,116
    If I get the cash myself, yes. Crane has plenty already
     
  15. ssherman

    ssherman Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    0
    Fill Wesley Wright's spot with anyone other than Humber. The only reason Humber will be in that spot is because the club is locked into his ~$800k salary for this season because he made the opening day roster, and if they brought up another reliever they would owe the prorated minimum to that player.

    There are not many things the club can do, but it is difficult to argue at this point that they are not cheap.

    There is no reason to pay money to watch this team at this point, and remember, Crane doesn't care about any of our opinions unless we have $10 million to buy a portion of his team.

    Additionally, it is reprehensible what they are doing to George Springer. They are clearly attempting to delay his free agency and arbitration eligibility by a year. To do this for a player who is clearly better than any other outfielder currently on the club in an industry where someones career will last a decade if they are lucky is awful. I had respect for Luhnow and the baseball operation and generally supported every move they have made, but this is disgusting. And hiding behind him having no two strike approach and striking out too much, when the team is about to break the club's strike out record in mid August is laughable. Another example of new ownership being cheap.

    If ownership was going to run the club as custodians of something engrained in the community I would be interested in going to at least a dozen games a season. However, if they are going to run the club purely as a business, I have no intention of doing anything other than watching games on television until they are in contention for the division and there is something worth paying for.
     
  16. cardpire

    cardpire Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2008
    Messages:
    10,809
    Likes Received:
    769
    And they know that.

    Doesn't matter how much people whine and complain and threaten to boycott. The second the winning starts, the seats will be filled.
     
  17. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,570
    Likes Received:
    7,094
    They aren't delaying his free agency...

    BTW, they DFA'd Humber earlier this season and brought somebody up to take his spot. Why do that if so concerned about those $$$? I can't say why they called up Humber, but it probably isn't to save $100k.
     
  18. ssherman

    ssherman Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    13
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have serious doubts that Springer will be on the opening day roster next season. He probably deserved to be on the team when Grossman was added the first time. He might not be on the team until next July.

    And they had to DFA Humber earlier in the season. They tried to put him in the pen because of his contract, but he was awful there too. He was added now instead of someone else because they were already paying him.
     
  19. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,570
    Likes Received:
    7,094
    So you wanted him to skip AAA completely and to give up future roster flexibility?

    He had to relief appearances. He was spectacular in one and terrible in the other. I'm curious, why was Humber skipped over for Lo, Zeid, Chapman?
     
  20. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,717
    Likes Received:
    132,058
    Over reacting.... The Astros MAY prove to be cheap, but it is too early to tell. They have spent in the draft thus far and do not need to be targeting free agents at this point. As far as Springer is concerned, our GM harped on strikeouts and controlling the count in the past. To me the bigger concern is that our GM/Scouts are concerned Springer isn't ready, that his AAA success won't translate.
     

Share This Page