1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Astros Offseason thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 27, 2005.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. kaleidosky

    kaleidosky Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,086
    Likes Received:
    1,352
    http://proxy.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2343690

     
  2. wrath_of_khan

    wrath_of_khan Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2000
    Messages:
    2,155
    Likes Received:
    7
    Great article on Oswalt in this week's SI. Kind of makes him out to be a bit of a hayseed (check out the Hee Haw T-shirt), but it's a nice read.

    Dude has the patience of Job when it comes to deer hunting! (Read the article to see what I mean by that ... )

    [​IMG]
     
    #602 wrath_of_khan, Feb 25, 2006
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2006
  3. leroy

    leroy Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    27,349
    Likes Received:
    11,213

    I love Roy-o, but they didn't have to try to make him seem like he's a hayseed. He is a hayseed.
     
  4. msn

    msn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    11,726
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    Holy crap, come on JStark. "Multigazillionairre"??

    I am so sick and tired of this STUPID argument. Although there are lots of reasons this situation could have been handled better, this is *not* one of them.

    Repeat after me, Jayson: it's a business. Now, say it louder: "it's a business." Good. Now, pull your head out of your ass and realize that noone funds a business out of personal wealth.

    For cryin' out loud, is it *that* hard to get? No, it isn't. JStark, who usually writes better than this, is relying on emotionally charged language to get his point across--a lame-assed gimmick that really isn't necessary for a good writer. Dick Justice needs to resort to crap like that, but typically not Stark.
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,802
    Likes Received:
    20,459
    It is not just a business. That is as wrong as wrong can be in Bagwell's case. If it was just a business Bagwell would not have restuctured contract after contract, played for less money so that the Astros could sign other better players.

    If it was all about business Bagwell have taken as much money as he possibly could have, because that is the smart business decision. Bagwell would have made millions of more dollars and the Astros would have spent many years in the cellar.

    But Jeff had loyalty to the team, and wanted to win. It has always been about more than just business.
     
  6. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    Bagwell has never played for less money. He has averaged over $15MM per year the last 5 or 6 years, as much as anyone in baseball outside of a few outliers. He was paid market value or more when he signed this contract.

    He's restructured his contract to delay some of those payments, but that doesn't change the value of his contract (I imagine the payments are larger to account for future value).
     
  7. thegary

    thegary Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    11,006
    Likes Received:
    3,128
    totally agree. love him, but urbane he is not.
     
  8. msn

    msn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    11,726
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    You and I agree re:Bagwell.

    I didn't say it was just a business. (But it is first and foremost a business.)

    What I said was that there are reasons why this should have been handled differently, but that McLane's net worth is not among them.
     
  9. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    they are larger.

    biggio, however, signed for less. :)
     
  10. msn

    msn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2002
    Messages:
    11,726
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    I believe there is interest involved as well.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page