A Rod and the M's, Rangers, and The Yanks...seasons of bliss. Octobers a miss. Sign Beltran. Hey, is Leiter worth 1/$6mil? Ask Hendrix???
Unless his agent says it directly relates to the market value his client commands, which is what he has said, then it has everything to do with Beltrans Market Value. Beltran will be the first. The economics may be different but you need to convince Boras of that not me. I'd be willing to be Carlos gets over 15 mil per year. Someone will pay for his services. Offering less than Bagwell is making, even if times are different, was probably interpreted as a sign that the Astros aren't serious about Beltran.
I guess I missed it. When did Boras say that Bagwell's contract was relevant?? Having said that..and assuming that's what Boras said...Boras says A LOT of things!! It's mere negotiation. I don't think the Astros have to make a higher offer than other teams merely because they're paying Bagwell $17 million on a backloaded deal. No one will interpret this offer as the Astros not being serious about Beltran. No one will. This is the market, as it is today. This is not 1999. This is post-A-Rod.
And Pujols was 24 when he signed the contract as well. I'd be extremely surprised if anyone gave Beltran any more than 6 years.
Bottom line is that until Purpura or Mcclane come out and say "we have offered x and we are waiting for a response"...then everything in the chronicle, espn.com, etc is all pure speculation and educated guesses. The only thing this article says is that teh Astros appear ready to make an offer of x...i read the same thing last week in Justice's column. I think we will know something this coming week in terms of who will be bidding for his services and what his value is...and once we see what those 2 things are, we will be able to evaluate our chances a little better.
Heck, isn't Texas still paying A. Rod? Weren't the Rangers going to have to pay close to 40% of what was left of his contract? I could not agree with you more on the fact that the market has corrected itself but I don't think by enough. If the Astros end up paying Beltran $14.5 million that means he will make approximately $24,000 per at bat if he has the same number of at bats as last year. Just let me take 2 of his at bats per year and I would be happy.
Pujols has no injury problems, as has been mentioned. And I didn't answer my own question. Although thanks for deleting all parts of my post except for that one taken-out-of-context sentence. Vlad was a 4-time allstar. Beltran went once. Vlad was consistenly a league leader in hitting. Beltran has been only "above average" before this year. Oh, and Vlad, once he finally got out of the horrible Expos, became an MVP. Even though his hitting wasn't that better than his typical production. He simply got more opportunites with a better lineup. Beltran, on the other hand, had a career year and still likely wouldn't have finished in the top 5 in NL MVP voting if you stretched his stats in Houston to a whole season. And look no further than Biggio to see how fast a player's speed in their 30s can decline. Beltran has to become a MONSTER hitter before he can justify his salary 6-7 years from now.
Beltran's in the bag, i know i have absolutley no credibility and even i thought we would not get Beltran. But we have and in time it will be official. Heard it from some people close to the team, some executives that work for the a homebuilder that sponsors the Astros, can't tell the name of company but do your research and you know who they are. Starts with a K. and ends with home.
I heard this just this morning, something about 14 something million for seven years, didn't pay too much attention to the details cuz i was just too exited, could have been 18 something millions, dont remember.
Would that be Krackhead Homes? ANyway, if true this will be huge, but I never doubted the fact that we would make a serious effort to get him.
hehe..... I hope it's true. I too believe, despitewhat the media said towards the end of last season, the Astros were going to go strongly after Beltran.
Would certainly make the non-tender to Kent look a lot better. Winter meetings start on Friday in Anaheim if I'm not mistaken?
It is KB Homes, and not to dog you personally "sum," but how the crap would a sponsor know about the details of a high profile, secretive FA signing? A lower tier sponsor at that. ???
The A-Rod deal didn't kill Texas at all. If you look at the salary data, Texas spent *more* on everyone 24 players than the Astros, and several other mid-market teams, did on 25 players. 24 players, *excluding* A-Rod. Therefore, the general impression that A-Rod cost the Rangers the ability to spend on other parts, while understable, is inaccurate. What killed the Rangers then is what kills them today--they absolutely suck at evaluating pitching talent.
How would a sponsor find out this information? Hope it's true but I'll believe it when I see it (or hear it).
