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Astros negotiating with Jeff Kent????

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by JBIIRockets, Dec 17, 2002.

  1. Rocketman95

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    Makes sense, I guess.
     
  2. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Juan Pierre? If you consider Pierre a really good center fielder, then the Astros already have one of those on their roster. His name is Brian Hunter.
     
  3. RunninRaven

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    There have been quiet rumors and mentionings that Carlos Beltran is on the trading block. If the Astros could swing a deal for this guy, I do a happy dance on my kitchen table.
     
  4. Live

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    In case anyone missed this sentence:

    We'll see.
     
  5. Lil Francis

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    Hunsicker said he had a deal done that should be announced today. He said this last night on WB.
     
  6. derrock

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    If the A's deal Tejada then I will never go to...well, I said the same thing after McGwire and Giambi (FA). :mad:

    Because our owner is the biggest tight wad in all of baseball and Miggy's a free agent after next season. There was a report of Tejada to the Diamondbacks for Durazo and Byun-Hun Kim. Well, A's got Durazo anyways and Billy Beane got pissed about the rumors with dealing Tejada. Im my mind, all their deals to free up money (Lidle, Koch) is to setup a good offer to Miggy. Of course, as it came down with Giambi, its a matter of whether or not Miggy wants to stay. The A's will offer him a good contract (I'd say $12 million per) but not the best one on the market. No dealings are happening yet because Miggy's in the DR and there's rumors that when he gets back to the US, he'll be getting older :confused:

    Thanks for letting me talk a little about my team. Sorry if I pissed anyone off.
     
  7. Castor27

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    thanks castor --- maybe moving bidge to the OF?? interesting.
     
  9. Castor27

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    Yeah a post at OrangeWhoopass pointed out the defensive differences:

    Which is the better defensive alignment:
    2b - Kent
    3b - Blum
    OF: Biggio - Berkman - Hidalgo

    or

    2b - Biggio
    3b - Kent
    OF: Ward - Berkman - Hidalgo



    I am thinking I kinda like the look of that first lineup
     
  10. BALLhog 247 365

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    I think our first priority is to get rid of Richard Hidalgo... Ithink this guy played with a double corked bad in the 2000 season. I'd really want the Astros to try to deal for Vlad Guerrero in a deal involving hidalgo
     
  11. Refman

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    Personally I think we'll move Ward in a deal to get a CF. Ideally, I'd like Randy Winn...but we'll see.

    OF next year...

    Berkman- CF via trade- Lane

    IF next year...
    3B Kent
    SS Lugo
    2B Biggio
    1B Bags
    C Ausmus

    I think that's a pretty solid lineup.
     
  12. RunninRaven

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    This will be an opportunity for Biggio to be an All Star at three different positions in his career! I'm all for it! ;)
     
  13. RunninRaven

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    You know, I was thinking...if we do manage to sign Jeff Kent somehow, we damn well better see some apology posts on this BBS from the various Drayton bashers who claim he never gets key free agents. Kent is one of the bigger FAs available this offseason.

    Of course...that's if we get Kent.
     
  14. The Cat

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    Maybe this is getting closer? The word "serious" is used now:

    HOUSTON -- The Astros are in "serious negotiations'' with free agent second baseman Jeff Kent's agent, Houston owner Drayton McLane Jr. told a television station.

    HOUSTON -- The Astros are in "serious negotiations'' with free agent second baseman Jeff Kent's agent, Houston owner Drayton McLane Jr. told a television station.

    "The negotiations have been going on for the past three days, and it could go either way,'' McLane told KRIV-TV in Houston on Monday.

    The Red Sox are also looking at Kent as a possible free-agent addition, the Boston Globe reported in Tuesday's editions. The Globe did not cite any sources in its report.

    Kent's agent, Jeff Klein, confirmed the San Francisco Giants player had some interest in the Astros because he respects general manager Gerry Hunsicker and "he likes the lineup, (Minute Maid Park) and he owns a ranch in Texas.''

    Kent's ranch is near Spicewood, northwest of Austin.

    Kent is the only second baseman in major league history with 100 or more runs batted in for six consecutive seasons. He led the National League last season in extra-base hits and in multi-hit games.

    The Astros already have a solid second baseman in Craig Biggio. If signed, speculation has Kent moving to third base or taking over at second, with Biggio moving to the outfield.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/news/2002/1217/1478447.html
     
  15. BALLhog 247 365

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    Now espn says that the Astros are very serious about him, but not according to hunsicker,but Mclayne himself.
     
  16. The Cat

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    Damn, missed Castor's post... my bad.
     
  17. Castor27

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    That would be difficult for the Astros to do. 1st off Montreal would not take any kind of straight up deal like that. Next they wanted 4 good players for Vasquez or Colon plus the cash to pay salaries of the players they got. The Astros would never want to take on an $11 mil salary without unloading that much in return or getting cash in the deal. And they certainly would not trade Hidalgo to a team for 11 million in salary then agree to pay Richard's salary on top of that.

    The Astros will be hard pressed to find a team that will take on Hidalgo's contract and not give us a similar contract in return. Especially with Richard getting shot and coming off 2 sub-par seasons. Teams just aren't gonna say "You know that Hidalgo is great let's ge thim and his bad contract.

    If I had a bag of crap and I offered it to you for a bag of gold would you take it?
    Neither would most MLB teams.
     
  18. BALLhog 247 365

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    I'm not good at talking contracts, i just watch the game. Cant they just release him or something?
     
  19. The Cat

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    Contracts are guaranteed. They could release him, but they'd still be stuck paying his deal.
     
  20. NIKEstrad

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    I think signing Kent means that a big contract will be moved-either Hidalgo or Wagner.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it's Wagner-If you can package him with Ward and maybe even throw in Ensberg and/or other prospects for a leadoff type CF and a setup man, then sign Kent, DO IT. That's the value of havin Dotel-he can easily take over the closer's role.

    Kent would look very good on our team.

    leadoff CF
    Biggio 2B
    Berkman LF
    Bagwell 1B
    Kent 3B
    Hidalgo RF
    Lugo SS
    Ausmus C

    You can flip flop Lugo and Biggio, and manuever the 4-5-6 however, depending on if Hidalgo miraculously finds his stroke or not.

    Bench includes: Zaun (C), Hunter (OF), Blum (3B/SS), Merced (LF/RF), Lane (OF/1B), Vizcaino (infield), Everett (SS) etc.

    Rotation: WaMi, Roy, Reynolds, 2 of Redding, Saarloos, Hernandez, Lidge, and any of our other fringe guys, with the others going to the bullpen.
    Pen: Aftorementioned guys, guys picked up via trade, and ending with Dotel.
     

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