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Astros Need Commitment by Clemens

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by MadMax, Oct 3, 2006.

  1. Master Baiter

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    Aren't you sharp as a tack, you some type of lawyer or somethin'? Or somebody important or somethin'?
     
  2. MadMax

    MadMax Member

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    i'm a shepherd.
     
  3. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    And you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
     
  4. MadMax

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    and i'm a card-carrying member of the Magicians' Alliance.
     
  5. Nick

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    Its not my trick, michael..... its my ILLU-sion!
     
  6. MadMax

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    THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!!!!!!
     
  7. imoffg33

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    huff is a career .300 avg 30hr 100rbi hitter. we need to bring him back
     
  8. No Worries

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    Dude has peeked. Don't need to be paying for his glory years and not get the glory.
     
  9. Hey Now!

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    as an astro, he was on pace to hit 35 hrs and drive in 102 runs over a full season.
     
  10. SWTsig

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    *cue magician music
     
  11. MadMax

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    his career average is .285. he's only hit over .300 twice in his career.

    he's only hit 30 HR once in his career.

    he's only knocked in 100 rbi or more twice in his career.

    i really like huff and i want him playing 3B for us next season on a regular basis. but let's no overemphasize the point! :D
     
  12. MadMax

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    when he's running around the stage just throwing cards around!! :D

    seriously, i'll start thinking of that sometimes when I'm around the office or driving in my car and i just start laughing. that's great stuff!
     
  13. msn

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    I can't *believe* you're still on your high horse about this!! It's downright hysterical!!!

    Oh, and yes, you *did* say there was no way the Astros were getting Clemens back. You moaned and whined and pitched fits for four months about it. Then, when it looked like the Astros (and the majority of *us*, tyvm) were right the whole time, you began to hedge your bet by saying, "well, they might get lucky". I believe one of the things you said was, "As a season ticket holder, it makes me so happy to know the Astros raised the prices that I'm paying so that I can have the pleasure of watching Ezekiel Astacio pitch instead of Roger Clemens."

    I believe the little Internet gamer geeks would be piling on at a time like this and screaming, "PWNED!!!!"
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

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  15. Buck Turgidson

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    Clemens is a "special case" in regards to the budget, says Drayton. Why would they treat it any differently this offseason?
     
  16. Hey Now!

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    nomar was a free agent signing. tejada made $11.8M last year; lee $8.5M. what players were the astros going to trade to offset, or even reduce, their payroll?

    i love this; "forced." why weren't they "forced" to give big contracts to kile, johnson, hampton, everett, kent, beltran and the other big-name players that have left houston and, i'm sure, form the basis of your "mclane's cheap" routine?

    the only reason for excluding them is because is torpedoes you being able to cry like a baby about a long-dead topic of conversation.

    bagwell, pettitte, clemens, berkman and oswalt are ALL paid FMV. nothing cheap about any of them.

    so now you're going to b**** about them resigning a solid stick simply because they're not going to overpay him? if huff is willing ot sign here for less... that's somehow a mark against mclane? unreal.

    i thought they should have offered him arbitration, but he had a chance to sign with ANYBODY and didn't until may/june. he could have given the yankees or red sox or rangers a full year but HE chose not to.

    the astros had NOTHING to do with that. if he had told them he was definitely coming back, they would have offered him arbitration; they'd done it the year before.

    incredible. do you realize the two previous years were the two best in franchise history? and this, for its warts, wasn't too shabby?

    are those the mistakes you're referencing?

    there are A LOT of things you can b**** about with this team. but drayton being cheap is sooooooooo 1997. he's the best owner this franchise has ever had and the best owner this city has ever had. bar none. he's not above reproach, but he's earned at least the benefit of the doubt. no houston franchise has ever had a 10-year run like this one the astros are currently enjoying, and it doesn't seem to have an end in sight just yet.

    it's included memories that'll last a lot of us a lifetime and we've been privy to some of the single greatest baseball players IN HISTORY. biggio, bagwell and clemens are LEGENDS. berkman and oswalt may soon be joining them - they are, right now, two or three of the BEST PLAYERS IN ALL OF BASEBALL. johnson, kent and possibly beltran will all be HOF-worthy and we saw some of their best moments as professionals. pettitte is one of the most revered yankees of this generation..... i mean, good god, dude - ENJOY YOURSELF! this is fun; there are fans of 25 teams in baseball that would trade places with you so fast they'd have to invent a new way to measure it.
     
  17. gunn

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    The players that I would target this offseason via trade would be in order:

    1. Dontrelle Willis
    2. Carl Crawford
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    3. Vernon Wells
    ..
    ...
    ....and a distant

    4. Miguel Tejada

    To get Dontrelle it will cost Willy T and Jason Hirsh plus. From there with an obvious hole in center you look to fill the void by getting Carl Crawford, who in my opinion, would be the hardest to get of the bunch due to his oogles of talent and cheap locked-in contract. But I think a deal including Troy Patton, Brad Lidge, and Luke Scott or Hunter Pence would be a solid start to getting such a deal done. Vernon Wells and Tejada would be my back-up (but still great) options for upgrading the offense. I'd be willing to part with the entire farm for the top two.

    After securing deals for Willis and Crawford, I'd look to re-sign Andy Pettitte to a two year deal with an option in year two. The return of Pettitte would solidify the 3 spot in the rotation and if Clemens decides to return mid-season Andy would likely be one of, if not the best number 4 in the league. After Pettitte, I would look to bring Woody Williams home on a 1 year deal to secure the rotation.

    April Rotation:

    Oswalt
    Willis
    Pettitte
    Williams
    Buchholz/Wandy

    Possible June Rotation?:

    Oswalt
    Willis
    Clemens
    Pettitte
    Williams

    With no corner outfielders the next free agent aquisition is clearly Carlos Lee. If both Scott and Pence are gone via trade or Ensberg is moved for a catcher then the re-signing Huff would be a priority.

    Line-up:

    1. Crawford - CF
    2. Ensberg - 3B
    3. Lee - RF
    4. Berkman - 1B
    5. Huff - RF
    6. Biggio/Burke - 2B
    7. Everett - SS
    8. Ausmus - C
    9. (Willis) - P

    There's you blueprint Drayton. Your welcome. :p
     
  18. Buck Turgidson

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    wrt Tejada...it's hard to construe trading ~3 guys (AE/Lane/Qualls/Lidge/Moberg/prospects) all under club control and all on 1-year deals, for a guy with $50+ million in guaranteed long-term money owed as a salary wash, even if the salaries for one season come close to offsetting.

    No kidding. I don't understand the b****ing. Never have, for the most part.
     
  19. msn

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    Well said; I was about to quote the same excerpt you quoted and say something very similar. b****ing is so very, very stupid.
     
  20. Astroholic

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    I'm sorry, I don't have the time this minute to read back through all the posts, so I'll just ask. What's the update with Clemens and committing? Do we have a deadline for him yet?
     

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