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Astros Managerial Search

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by speed star, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. BigBird

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Brad Ausmus, in a text message to <a href="http://t.co/Q1rjoR5T" title="http://MLB.com">MLB.com</a>, said he enjoyed speaking with Astros but is withdrawing name from consideration.</p>&mdash; Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) <a href="https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/249274439303307264" data-datetime="2012-09-21T22:30:32+00:00">September 21, 2012</a></blockquote>
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  2. cardpire

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    excellent. if it's going to be a new era of astros baseball, they need to move past all the mclane-era gimmickry.
     
  3. BigBird

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    I didn't see Brad Mills as a gimmick hire. The only thing Ausmus lacks is managerial experience, but many in the league believe that he would make a good manager.
     
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  5. cardpire

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    wasn't talking about mills. was talking about possibility of signing ausmus, probably supplementing him with biggio as hitting coach, bagwell as bench coach, etc., etc.
     
  6. BigBird

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    Where did you hear any indication that if the Astros hired Ausmus that they would go in that direction? Again, I don't see Ausmus as a gimmick hire.
     
  7. cardpire

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    i didn't, let me back up: i was talking about ausmus and ausmus only being a gimmick hire. i just would assume they'd end up with biggio in the dugout too.

    i don't see ausmus as being somebody luhnow would interview if he was the GM of any other franchise in the majors. he has no coaching experience on any level, save for next year's israeli team in the world baseball classic.
     
  8. BigBird

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    I look at it this way: what have we got to lose? No successful, experienced manager is going to take the job because given what they would have to work with and the relatively short tenures of the past couple of mangers it just wouldn't make sense. So the question becomes, why not Ausmus? He's a guy the young guys can look up to, he's played under good managers and has the mind to successfully manage strategy during a game. He's been in many clubhouses not so long ago relatively speaking, so I would assume he knows how to keep a clubhouse together. I wish he wouldn't have taken his name out of consideration because I would love to have him as manager.
     
  9. J.R.

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    Everyone throw your dart at the wall and see who it lands on to become next Astros manager!

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Some in baseball believe that Dan Radison will be the next Astros manager.</p>&mdash; DKnobler (@DKnobler) <a href="https://twitter.com/DKnobler/status/249280044961234944" data-datetime="2012-09-21T22:52:48+00:00">September 21, 2012</a></blockquote>
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    Dan Radison, the interim first base coach
     
  10. Ricksmith

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    Is anyone having problems with FS Houston on Comcast? Its like im watching a crappy stream. Didn't feel like making a game thread for that.
     
  11. codell

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    No, just a crappy team. Easy mistake to make though. :)
     
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    Ausmus would not be a gimmick hire. He has a great mind for the game and knows how to handle a pitching staff. Mike Matheny and Robin Ventura have proven to be good managers despite having no managerial experience.
     
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    respectfully disagree. why is he qualified? how do you know he has "a great mind for the game"? because he went to an ivy league school?

    he was in the mix because he went to dartmouth, and because he played for the astros. that makes him a gimmick hire, imo.
     
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    Have there been any leaks to what kind of contract length is likely to be offered?
     
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    No leaks. Perhaps 2 yr deal with option for 3rd or 3 yr deal with option for 4th, I don't know. Do they have or give out option contracts like that(in the NBA)? Not sure.

    Anywho...

     
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    In my way of thinking, a 2 year deal means they want all their options open BEFORE contention. It also means that whoever comes in wont see that day UNLESS they really impress the brass enough to get an extension / new contract.

    Overall, it strikes me a a stopgap measure rather than cementing the future (if its a 2 year offer). A 4 year offer would get me thinking beyond the rebuilding and possibly into those years where we MIGHT be competitive.

    I was basically wondering if Crane / Luhnow had a timescale in mind from the start, or were open depending on who came to the call and how impressed / unimpressed they were in the interviews.
     
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    Because he managed a pitching staff that went deep in the playoffs multiple times. People around the league believed that he would be a good manager in the future while he was playing, so I would have to assume he has a great mind for the game. I mean obviously there's no quantifiable data to back that up, but you look at his body of work and there's no other logical conclusion that you can come to other than that he knows the game of baseball pretty darn well.
     
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    Tons of baseball knowledge doesnt necessarily translate to being a good manager. I am not saying it couldnt work, but its a crapshoot. Dierker went from the booth to manager and it worked out pretty well, so who knows? But myself and probably most others would be a bit more comfortable with a guy who at least has ML coaching experience.
     
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    Ausmus did not put in long hours as a player and I really do not think he would as a manager. He is a smart guy that was well liked by the players, but I don't think managing a MLB team is a gig where you can just show up.
     

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