@thescorer: Drayton McLane on whether Berkman could be gone too: "I really don't think so but you can't rule anything out." #astros
I believe we can offer him arbitration if the mutual option isn't exercised. The problem is that I'm sure he won't be a type A free agent and he might not even be a type B free agent. Someone else who really knows the arbitration process will probably be better at answering that.
i agree, but i also would have thought oswalt would have brought a way bigger haul than he did. you throw in the fact that they are only getting berkman for a 2 month rental, and i can't imagine we'd get anything significant. maybe if we threw in lyon or lindstrom, and a lower grade prospect of our own or something. who knows...i certainly hope you're right. if i was a team in contention and in need, i'd certainly love to take a shot at berkman for the stretch run.
Top free agents are classified as Type A (the top 20 percent at their position as determined by the Elias Sports Bureau), Type B (between 21 and 40 percent at his position). would require myers to completely fall apart to drop out of type b.
This is the best I could find with a little research: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/elias-rankings-update-1.html As of early this month (7/7/10), Myers wasn't even close to a Type B based on their methodology, which I assume is close to if not completely accurate. On the other hand, Wandy is a Type A.
I got this chart from www.mlbtraderumors.com. This is the projected rankings as of 7/25, and they don't have Myers as a Type B free agent. I guess not pitching much last season is hurting his status. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/elias-rankings/
Cool, you found the current version. Wow, he went up like 7 points since July 7th. In that case, he has a solid chance to become a Type B if he pitches well down the stretch.
But you are probably right that he would have to fall off not to be a Type B free agent. He should be classified as one by season's end at the rate he is going.
Also, Wandy has gone down from a Type A to a Type B over the last few weeks but I'm guessing he's a Type A again after his 7/25 performance, assuming those Elias rankings occurred before that start which is likely the case since the last update was on 7/25.
yeah, but it seems like the obvious choice to cash him in for what you can get now rather than hoping to get 1 supplemental pick. maybe they'd rather have him in the rotation next year and either trade him at next years deadline or hope to get Type A picks for him the following season? there has to be some rationale for them allegedly saying he's untouchable.
Comparing that 7/7 version to the 7/25 verion you posted, you get an idea of how volatile the ratings can be, assuming their methodology is accurate. Myers went from nowhere near a Type B to just below a Type B and Wandy went from a Type A to a Type B and likely back to a Type A with his last start, which should be reflected in the next release. In fact, Myers should also have gotten another big boost with his last start which isn't reflected in those rankings so he should firmly be a Type B at the moment.
I have to agree and I hope the rationale is beyond "we need somebody to eat innings even in a lost season." I made that argument a few days ago but somebody accurately pointed out that you can find some other low end pitchers to fill out the rotation and still cash in on Myers this season.
I want to believe that it has to be some posturing by the Astros FO to get a good deal for Myers. It would be a big mistake not to sell him high and get some prospects in return. As well as Myers has pitched this season, I can see him leaving the Astros at season's end and signing a long term deal with another team.
Wow the Twins just traded top catching prospect Wilton Ramon to the Nats for Matt Capps. Please tell me why Matt Lindstrom is not the on the trade block if you can get a player of Ramos' caliber for Capps. Compare Capps and Lindstrom's stats for this year and they are almost the same. http://twitter.com/MDGonzales/status/19873122567
This trade is a disaster. Not only did we get talent that doesn't fit what should be our organizational goals, we gave them a ass load of money to offset Oswalt's contract. Any trade offer that started with JA Happ should have resulted in a no thanks, try again. Unless we're going to flip him for two B level prospects, he has little value to a cellar dwelling team like ours. Brett Wallace, though he's a real prospect, again not the type of guy we need here. All this stuff about him being MLB ready is pointless because our team is going to suck for a long time. We need quality young arms and young high ceiling talent. We struck out hard.
I'm surprised the Rangers aren't in play for Berkman. They need a 1B and we can kick in cash to make the trade work.
