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Astros have deal in place to trade Roy Oswalt

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by J.R., Jul 28, 2010.

  1. rockets934life

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    Like I wrote in the other thread, Twitter is great but has also created this mess we are in now...sadly NO WAY OUT
     
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  2. justtxyank

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    It amuses me greatly that the Phillies are giving up prospects to get Oswalt when they could have had Lee still for nothing. LOL
     
  3. The Cat

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    Yup... Zolecki is far better tied into the Phillies' organization, and Ken has looked like an ass for this entire process. Hope it stays that way...
     
  4. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

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    Cat, Rosenthal is a junk reporter in general. He is hardly ever right.
     
  5. BoomTown

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    I really hope this deal goes down...
     
  6. leroy

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    Yeah...they screwed that one up and they're paying for it now. Lee's contract is pretty friendly, too, for someone of his stature.
     
  7. BrooksBall

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    Well, it wasn't exactly nothing. They would've been paying millions more from day one of the season. My understanding is that moving Lee was a financial requisite from their owner for them to take on Halladay in the first place.

    If this Oswalt deal goes down anywhere close to how it's being reported, they will potentially pay nothing to Oswalt this year and only part of what he's due next season at which point they can shave payroll in other areas.
     
  8. MadMax

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    Roy and Roy and pray for ____________?

    (joy?)

    EDIT: LaTroi?
     
  9. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

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    Cliff Lee was owed $8 million this year. That's hardly a deal breaker for an organization like the Phillies. Had they kept him perhaps they'd still be in the playoff picture instead of trading prospects and a young cost controlled rotation piece in order to scratch their way back into it.
     
  10. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    and pray for playoff scheduling like they did in 1998.
     
  11. MadMax

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    Stark is on TV now saying:

    Happ

    and......

    unidentified prospects :)

    mentioned Keppinger being part of deal, as well.
     
  12. BrooksBall

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    Well, if what I read in the past is accurate, it was very much the financial demand of the owner. Getting Halladay meant losing Lee. They never had the intention of paying both of them at the time.

    Maybe they changed their minds since then or maybe they aren't going to be paying Oswalt a penny this season in this deal to maintain whatever budget has been set by the owner.
     
  13. MadMax

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    ...and Hamels is nothing to sneeze at.

    I would love to see SF/Philly matchup in the NLCS!
     
  14. justtxyank

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    They've done away with that this year after the Yankees exploited it so well last season.
     
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    I understand that, I'm saying it was stupid. On top of that, they didn't get jack squat when they gave up Lee. It was just a dumb decision by that organization.
     
  16. J.R.

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    Pull trigger on this then :p

    Phillies Receive:

     
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  17. MadMax

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    sounds good to me hsf...

    then flip Bourn for prospects, since Gose is 26 (right??)
     
  18. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    That is why prayers are required. :)
     
  19. BrooksBall

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    I hear you I guess. I just don't know how to question another owner's financial decisions without knowing all the numbers. As is, the Phillies have already blown away their highest team payroll in history, without having to pay Cliff Lee: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/philadelphia-phillies_18.html

    2010: $138,178,379
    2009: $113,004,046
    2008: $ 98,269,880
    2007: $ 89,428,213
    2006: $ 88,273,333
    2005: $ 95,522,000
    2004: $ 93,219,167
    2003: $ 70,780,000
    2002: $ 57,954,999
    2001: $ 41,663,833
    2000: $ 46,900,000
     
  20. J.R.

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    Gose will be 20 in August.
     

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