I think it's interesting to see how few fans understand the dynamics of a baseball clubhouse. I've been in several and I have friends who are beat writers for various teams all across the country. From my experience, I can tell you that Purpura was the same way. On the field and in the clubhouse before games, talking to the players. From what others have told me from their clubhouses, this is very standard. There are some that don't, but by and large, GMs are involved in day-to-day operations, especially a case like Chacon's that has long-term implications. This isn't out of the ordinary, and to claim Wade instigated it by simply trying to get him to go to Cooper's office is just absurd.
And in this case, Chacon just asked to be traded. The GM is the guy who can make that happen. Yet, he ignored his manager AND his general manager.
Both have a history of this....Ed and Chacon. Ed Wade is not the manager.....he is the GM. And he cost the team a pitching asset in an area in which we are most thin. Outside of all of this, I am really disspappointed in hearing about Cooper, has he lost the players already? I wonder what Dierker is doing these days? DD
I already have. They called him a bad general manager (not true) based on personnel and on-field results -- nothing to do with being an ego maniac. That's something you decided to exaggerate for effect, to try and tie all this together.
I know all about GMs who are daily hands on, but very few are cussing players out in the clubhouse or calling team meetings. That's why you have a manager. That's his job.
Hey, did you miss this article that mokulen posted? http://sonsofsamhorn.net/lofiversion/index.php/t1199.html It's not technically a Philly fan, but there are some pretty damning things in there.
Honestly I don't care what Wade said or didn't say...because that does NOT justify what Chacon did. He took it to a whole other level; and he, Chacon, started this whole mess because of his poor attitude about being demoted in the first place. I also cannot believe that some people are taking what Chacon said about the incident at face value.
Isn't that a problem, though? I mean, Cooper was hiding in his office for this. Cooper is seriously disappointing me this year, on several fronts. And I was pulling for him, too. I've met him before and thought he was a great guy.
If your assertion is that Chacon is a real loss for this team, then we're never going to see this from the same standpoint, anyway.
Fair enough, I think escalating a situation and costing your team a tradeable asset (maybe not a big one) is bad management in itself. DD
I'm glad we have two full months before real football begins. Time to get caught up on some books/movies/tv shows that I've neglected due to baseball season.
Who in the world was going to trade for Shawn freaking Chacon? The guy who was just demoted to the bullpen from one of the worst rotations in the league? Seriously, you don't need to talk up that waste of space to make your point.
I know it's your job to defend this outfit, but to say I'm making **** up is outright hilarious. I know what I read, my brother lives in NYC and works with a few Philly fans who would send me links to the forums where the name calling was happening to bash my team, and not only was he called a bad manager, his ego was something that sickened many of the fans as well. Hell, it's pretty much been written in Richard Justice's blog. Ego- An exaggerated sense of self-importance; conceit. Keep those rose colored glasses clean, bud. Who knows, maybe your glass IS half empty and not half full!
I wonder if Cooper was laughing his *** off seeing Wade get his comeuppans. Cooper didn't want to stick his hand in a bee hive. That's called smart not poor managing. Then GM of the Year Wade decided to give it a try. You don't dress down Shawn Chacon. Look in the mirror?!? That's asking for it.
I saw it, but with all due respect, I'd sure like to see it in more than one article. Yelling/screaming and baseball go hand-in-hand, and you can easily twist it into something more. As a journalism lifer, I can promise you that there are hundreds of journalists out there with agendas against certain members of the organization, and they'll twist facts and situations to cast them into as bad a light as possible. I saw it many times last year in the Astros' own clubhouse. If something like that were so rampant and inappropriate, I have a hard time imagining only one writer mentioning or even picking up on it -- and after he's left, at that.
