Astros blocked CSNHouston deal?

Your question dealt with the worst team over the past few years, not since Crane has owned the team. But, if you're changing your question, then definitely Charlotte, the Chiefs, the Jaguars, the Marlins, the Raiders and the Magic.

 

If you want to take my comment, or any other for the matter, and make it a blanket statement then certainly you can say I'm wrong. Read the thread and the context and maybe you will understand the meaning. I'm not talking about the history of the organization I'm talking about crane

 

It's not crane's fault that the Astros suck. The prior regimes mismanagement on the baseball side put crane/luhnow in an impossible position. Branch Rickey, himself, couldn't have made this a playoff team in a year and a half.

 

Absolutely you are 100% right about that. In fact to this point the baseball side if things has drastically improved since he bought the team. I do not remember ever blaming crane for the team being bad. I think we need a reading comprehension class

 

Ok how about this. Your original claim was that in May 2011 Crane bought ("when you buy") the "worst team in professional sports." It's an absurd claim that can not be back up by any facts.

Forget, professional sports, when Crane agreed to buy the Astros in May 2011 they didn't even have the worst record in baseball. They also didn't have close the worst record the year before in 2010. Or in 2009. Go back to 2008 and you are entering a fifteen-year stretch in which they had one of the best winning percentages in the sport. When Crane bought the team the organization was in bad shape, but it was not the worst in baseball, much less professional sports. They still had Pence in the midst of a 5.4 WAR season, Bourn in a 3.1 WAR season, Lee in his final good year, Wandy, Altuve, Norris, Myers, etc. Hell, they still had a ~70 million dollar payroll.

Then having been called out for your absurd claim, you, starting in post 601, move the goalpost to try and argue that other posters in the thread had terrible reading comprehension issues because what you really meant was that Astros have been the worst team in professional sports the last few years (citing the last two post-Crane years as evidence). Of course this conveniently ignores your original claim that the Astros were the worst team in professional sports back when Crane bought them in May 2011, not in June 2013 or sometime in 2012.

More conveniently it also ignores the fact that the reason the Astros have been so historically bad these last few years is in large part due to the decisions made after Crane bought the team. The Astros were in bad shape because of the prior regime, but the major league team has been historically bad because of the conscious decisions by baseball operations to slash payroll and conduct a historic rebuild. So in the irony of ironies, this worst sport team you are blasting was put together due to the decisions of the baseball operations group, whose moves you admire so much.

We get that you have this bizarre axe to grind with Crane, but there are plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize ownership without inventing evidence.

 

is it really laziness to refer to the elephant in the room? do you really need help seeing it?

 

Where did he say that he wanted to give up in the international free agent market?

 

hyperbole. it's the quickest way to misrepresent someone's argument in an effort to deflect attention from one's own weak argument.

 

Truth. I will be remembering this phrase for future reference.

 

No actually it didn't, but thanks for telling me what my posts mean, I appreciate it

 

So... about that CSNHouston deal... yeah?

 

Sadly there hasn't been a positive word about it in a long time

 

Yeah. I was really hoping that Ryan jumping in would make a difference. At this point, I am just hoping to see it come back on by next Rocket season. I've listened to a ton of games this year with the MLB At Bat feature and have really enjoyed it. I forgot how great listening to games is.

 

I thought the same thing regarding Ryan. Listening to him on 790 last week though, he doesn't seem to be involved much in negotiations.

Gonna be interesting to see how long csn Houston survives if they don't get a deal in another year or so

 

Then who made this post:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=8020773&postcount=598

In case you can't read what you wrote:

Crane is a jerk, he talks to his own fan base as if we were trash. Yes, there are many professional sports owners who are a-holes, but when you buy the worst team in professional sports, you probably shouldn't talk down to your fans.

So what did you mean? Were they the worst when Crane bought them? Your post certainly implies they were. Are they the worst now?

 

Me, too. I've actually never stopped listening on the radio or online though. I grew up on Gene Elston and DeWayne Staats before Dierk came to the booth. I listened to Milo call Scottie's clincher in '86. Caught most of the 2005 playoffs in my truck. Good times.

 

1) you are really struggling to understand the meaning of what i wrote, but that is ok. don't take any of this personally, it's baseball opinion nothing personal, but more importantly

2) we were asked to get back on topic here which is the csn situation, i have done that, you really should also so this thread doesn't get removed. some of us don't get the games on tv and would like to have this thread stay here so we can talk about it.

 

(may not be CSN related, but I am interested) What are your thoughts on Sparks and Ford? Anything beats the combo on Ranger TV haha

 

Not sure yet. I think I like Ford. Sparks's southern drawl really catches me off guard, but I generally like what he offers. I enjoy Ford's pbp better, so I don't like the seventh inning as much.