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[Astros] Beltran Watch

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Kamel, Oct 20, 2004.

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Does Carlos Beltran Re-Sign with the Astros?

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  2. No

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  1. MadMax

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    no...it's just called a jock tax because it more adversely affects them. it affects them all the time...every road game to a state with an income tax...and every home gome if they're in a state where there's a state income tax.

    i remember this being a big point when kile signed with the rockies...if i remember right, the difference between what he got from colorado was made obsolete by the taxes he was paying in 81 home games in colorado which he would not have paid had his 81 home games been in texas.
     
  2. Refman

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    So then the state of NY claims you were, de facto, playing 81 road games within their borders and taxes you accordingly.

    Similarly, my father worked in banking for over 4 decades. He later became a consultant. When they sent him to North Carolina for 3 months, he got to pay North Carolina income taxes, despite his home in Houston.
     
  3. Another Brother

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    Forgive me admins if this has already been discussed but other than money what does NY really have to offer athletes?

    If the marketing possibilities are so much better in NY then why is Derek Jeter not in more commercials?

    The Yankees need to make more pitching moves than any team in baseball, why sign another high paid outfielder?
     
  4. ArtV

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    I think the draw is money, NY city life (probably pretty good for a rich and famous person) and the chance to be on an annual winning team coached by Joe Torre.

    I think the fear here is that the Yankees have deep enough pockets that they can sign on better pitchers AND Carlos Beltran. Personally, I think they've got to be close to finding the bottom to that well and I can't see them going over 200 mill in payroll.
     
  5. rrj_gamz

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    I'm not sure they need another outfielder other than to fill out the all star roster...They need pitching more than anything else and I can't see them doing it, but you never know...
     
  6. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Interesting point brought up earlier, of the Astros, who truly bleeds Astro Orange. Beltran probably does not fit into that category although It is possible. It wasn't his choice to really be here.
     
  7. emjohn

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    The exposure, for one. Being part of what most consider to be the premier team in all of US sports is another.

    The endorsement deals are not neccessarily nationwide commercial campaigns. Plenty of it is local, and there are many more opportunities for big money appearances.

    The Yanks are very likely seeing their outfielder of the past decade plus retire, so there is a need. Besides, they're a team that always looks to bring in the best talents first and foremost. The pitching FA list isn't as great as it could be.

    Evan
     
  8. Rocket Fan

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    I saw at beg of year predictions that they had to make the world series to make a profit (yanks)......

    They supposedly were going to get like 280 mil revenue.. but they spend so much money that they'd about break even...

    there is at some point a limit to how much they can spend.. and I think they are on their way to reaching it..
     
  9. xiki

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    Sure, sign one stud everydayer then trade another for the pitcher desired.
     
  10. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    26 World Championships and the prestige of playing with the most prolific team in the history of baseball.

    Jeter has a lot of commercials and endorsements. He is Forbes #12 Most paid Athlete at $21Mil.
     
  11. Nick

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    Also, being on the only team in MLB history to blow a 3-0 lead should add to the "prolific" side of things...

    Face it, the Yankees (Jeter) "dynasty" is over... they're starting to remind me of the Rockets, from 96-99... constantly re-loading with Barkley, Scottie, Francis... still tryin to win it all, but in the end, it was merely prolonging the inevitable.

    Sports runs in cycles... NO team has proven, in any league, that they can be championship calibur forever... especially not in this modern age of sports.

    If it can be done in any sport, its baseball (due to its economic structure), and if any team in baseball can do it, its the Yankees, but parity is starting to weave its way into MLB ever-so-slightly...
     
  12. NJRocket

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    go with what you like...I claimed residency in Texas becuase I owned a home and spent 183 days plus there and didnt have to pay state income tax.
     
  13. MadMax

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    so all of these articles that i and others have posted....are they made up? the comments by agents about how they have to advise their clients on it...made up???
     
  14. NJRocket

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    I'm not saying that at all...what I am saying is that I was in the situation I described...period. I didn't have to pay state income tax...period. I don't know what else to tell you. I certainly know that I'm not making MY situation up...and I know what I had to pay and didn't have to pay.
     
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    So slightly, in fact, that it is virtually non-existant. There is no parity in baseball.
     
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    This is the correct analysis. I worked in 5 states last year that had income taxes and I had to pay tax in those states (and some cities, too), despite living in Texas where there is no state tax.
     
  17. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    You can count on the Yankees back in the playoffs next year with or without Beltran. Can you count on the Astros to do it without Beltran?
     
  18. Nick

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    Can you? I wouldn't be suprised if the Yankees didn't make the playoffs. And even if they do, what does it matter if they don't win World Series? Do you pay all that money just to make the playoffs?, cause if you do, you could do it for a helluva lot cheaper (see Oakland and Minnesota).

    I know I can't count on the Astros, nor do they have a $200 million dollar payroll that says I should.
     
  19. ROCKET RICH NYC

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    Look, I am by far no way near being a Yankee fan. I grew up in Houston and moved out here and continually have to hear it from all these Yankee fans. But you know what? I CAN count on the Yankees being in the playoffs every year. Do I care? NO!

    Sorry to say, but the Astros struggle every year where as the Yankees automatically get in the playoffs. If you think for even a second that the Yankees won't make the playoffs next year, you are not realistic.
     
  20. NJRocket

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    Its sucks....but he is right.
     
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