Right, of course it would but in the case of Brown, his team WOULD not even listen to offers for him.
I'm fuming b/c it's a *****ty deal with mediocre talent in return and you basically swapped myers for oswalt due to the fact the Astros overpaid him and still have to pay O...What money you "saved" you blew on Meyers, who isn't worth it...that's not rebuilding... Drayton is douche for ruining this team and saddling it was bad contracts and not doing enough to put a quality product out there and by hand cuffing the GM...no one wants to see a poor product and these bad decisions won't be fixed overnight, by bringing in medicore talent, pissing away $$$ and overpaying people...
Why was it a bad deal? Which player specifically, in the Oswalt deal, did you not like? If you think we could have gotten Strasburg or anyone close to his talent for Roy, you need to pay more attention to baseball. Is Drayton also a douche for putting this team in playoff contention year after year in the late 90s/2000s, including a WS run? What poor product are you currently seeing on the field -- the baby Astros that are on a 6-game winning streak? A lot of fans, specifically on this BBS, have said that they've had more fun watching these current Astros than they've had all year. I don't understand why people are so upset about the money included in the deals. Unless you can show me directly that Drayton cut cost somewhere because he included the money, I don't see how the money will affect our franchise presently and going forward. Drayton's tab for the team next year will be significantly less -- he doesn't have to cut any cost.
There isn't and never was a Strasburg type talent out there for a trade b/f the deadline...even if there was, O wouldn't be enought to close that deal...with your logic, you'd swap a 20 something raw talent for a 30 something aging star with a big contract...maybe you need to pay attention to baseball...pretending to be a GM on a video game doesn't count... Drayton is a douche, given the state of the organization now, his bad decisions and his direct involvement are now catching up to us...we're going to suck for a long time...that pisses me off...but I guess that's ok with you gdamn bandwagoner... and of course, now that they're on a 6 game winning streak, we're playoff bound right? everythings better? please post more often, you're insight will be greatly missed if you don't...
In the trade for Oswalt, they received a starting pitcher who was 2nd in rookie of the year voting last year. They also received one of the top (at least as it pertains to being major league ready) hitting 1st basemen in all of the minor leagues. Why do you consider these two players 'mediocre' talent and who would you suggest they should have received to make the deal more equitable all the while knowing that Oswalt controlled his fate and the trade opportunities were limited? Rather than being upset and just spew venom, provide a reasonable, thought out answer to that question.
Eh, I'm not a big fan of just completely blowing up a team to rebuild. You have to have some veterans, and at least some talent on your team. Go ask the Pirates/Royals how completely blowing up a team year after year for prospects is working for them. You can't just rely on young guys coming up from your minor leagues and being something special. You hold on to some of the veteran players (if you can sign them with out being a ridiculous deal), for when a couple of your young guys do happen to turn into solid players/stars, you have enough talent surrounding them to make a push, (or go add someone from free agency ect.) I have no problem with signing Myers to that contract. Have to have someone that can go out there and win you ball games, and not completely destroy your bullpen by a lack of innings pitched per game. Oh well, just my opinion.
I think the difference between us and the Pirates/Royals is that those franchises do not spend money while Uncle D has shown he is willing to spend, problem was he spent it horribly. If we can develop some nice home grown talent and mesh it with quality veteran FAgents down the road then we should be in great shape...think Braves. The Braves went through their own rebuilding and now have begun to add pieces around that youth along with making smart trades like Escobar for Gonzalez.
Uh, say what? Whether Johnson will keep it up is certainly up for debate, but on what planet is a .533 slugging percentage not showing much power?
No certainly not. But I also don't think that either of them will make an all-star team unless they get pity-voted like Bourn did this year. Their ceilings are not high. Roy Oswalt was a perennial Cy-Young contender for a good part of the decade and at worst is still an Ace on a bad team (like the Astros). You'd think they could get more high-ceiling talent. A) I agree that he won't keep it up B) Even with his .900 OPS he'd still only project to 17hrs in 600 AB's. You expect way more HR power than that from a corner position. He's certainly not going to hit 43 doubles like his pace this year. I don't know what the average 3B stats are but I'm imagining something like .280-.290 avg, 25-30hr, 100 runs, 100rbis. Double's are nice but don't drive in runs like HRs do.
Who cares if these guys never make a team that's voted on by the fans...Berkman is only a 5-time All Star. JD mentioned something the other day that some scouts predicted Wallace would be competing for a batting title eventually...whether that happens or not, that's an accolade that's worth something. And that's a pretty high ceiling. Perhaps we're setting our expectations too high...on Wallace especially, considering he's following the footsteps of Berkman and Bagwell. I'd be fine even if he amounts to an average 1B, as long as the team has above average/super stars at other positions. And you can find that in FA if you have to when the time is right.
All-Star games don't mean squat. And I think it's much easier to say about a prospect: "He won't amount to much" than it is to give valid reasons why they'll be good, so most people will just go with the former because it's easier. I agree with you on Wallace, most people are expecting too much. Judging from a small handfull of AB's, he has a good approach and a GREAT swing. The AB he had on his RBI single last night was a great AB...took pitches, had good hacks at balls in the zone, and the ball he laced back up the middle was RIPPED. He was all over that pitch. I really think once he settles in and strings together some consistent playing time, people will come around on his potential.
So you automatically "correct" numbers when you think they're too high (43 double pace), but you don't similarly "correct" numbers when you think they're too low? Something seems, uh, not fair there. In general, while there are a few doubles hitters, over time the double-to-homer ratio tends to even out. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I can guarantee you teams could care less about RBIs or runs, since they're dependent on so many other factors. I agree that he's likely to regress some, but looking at slugging percentage is a far better way to measure power than home runs and RBI, and a .533 at 3B puts him in the top half of the league, easily. I'm not saying I expect that pace to continue, but so far, he's where he needs to be.
The 'average' (NL) 3rd baseman is not a 100/100 guy. Last year, Zimmerman was the only one to accomplish that. Also, last year, 13 3rd basemen qualified offensively, 10 of them had 18 or less home runs, 1 had an OPS over .900.
Fair enough, but a quick look at his minor league numbers don't show a guy who has the potential to be a top guy at his position, not even close. In parts of three seasons at AAA, his BA was .281 and his OPS was .780. I'd expect him close to that, and that OPS is probably below average for a 3B. He's never even hit more than 14hr's in any minor league season. I'm certainly thrilled with how he's playing this season but I think he's in for a serious JR Towles-level correction. His ceiling is a solid everyday 3B, nothing more, but I'm not sure if he'll even be that. My point was that he's not projecting to be a middle of the order player, which is what you typically want in a corner position player. Given our overall offensive problems its fine that he's playing everyday there now because he is in fact doing a good job. But if you think he'd be a good player on a good team you're sorely mistaken.
Those would be average numbers for a 3B. If he does that I'll be very happy. If he can maintain an OPS over .800 I'll be ecstatic. We should all be happy with anything over .750.
