Astros 40-Man Roster

These pitchers are hurt and out for the season:
RHP John Ely - 27
RHP Rudy Owens - 25
RHP Alex White - 25
RHP Kyle Weiland- 26

Ely and White iirc just has TJ surgery this spring. Weiland had TJ the spring before last. Don't know what Owens deal is.

I think that it is very unlikely for them to be put on the 40 man roster, prior to the Rule 5 draft.

 

Orloff and Valenzuela were released.

I believe Owens has been out all season with a foot fracture. A better question is: Where the hell is Kyle Weiland?

 

I thought that they "retired".

 

If they did retire, then a release was probably the course of action taken.

 

Orloff "retired" and is now coaching at some university, IIRC.

 

Skimming our current 40 man, these guys should all be gone outright IMO

Erik Bedard
Hector Ambriz
Edgar Gonzalez
Travis Blackley
Wesley Wright
Jake Elmore
Brandon Laird
Trevor Crowe
J.D. Martinez

John Ely, Alex White and Rudy Owens are all coming off surgery and may not need protection. I think we move Corporan.

17 Players
C Jason Castro
C Max Stassi
C Rene Garcia
C Carlos Perez
1B Jonathan Singleton
1B Brett Wallace
1B Chris Carter
2B Jose Altuve
SS Marwin Gonzalez
SS Jonathan Villar
3B Matt Dominguez
3B Jonathan Meyer
OF Domingo Santana
OF George Springer
OF L.J. Hoes
OF Robbie Grossman
OF Brandon Barnes

15 Players
SP Jordan Lyles
SP Lucas Harrell
SP Dallas Keuchel
SP Brett Olberholtzer
SP Brad Peacock
SP Jarred Cosart
SP Asher Wojiechowski
SP David Martinez
SP Jake Buchanan
RP Josh Fields
RP Chia-Jen Lo
RP Josh Zeid
RP Paul Clemens
RP Jason Stoffel
RP Kevin Chapman

Thats 32, maybe 31 depending on how Wallace finishes.

Notable players I'd leave unprotected
SP Bobby Doran
SP Ruben Alaniz
SP Rhiner Cruz
RP Kyle Weiland
1B Telvin Nash
OF Jimmy Paredes
OF Marc Krauss
OF Austin Wates

They probably want to keep at least 5 or 6 spots open for FA and Rule V picks and we would still have some wiggle room. Combined with possible trades I don't really see us in danger of losing a major prospect.

 

19 position players.
19 pitchers.

IIRC Rhiner Cruz and Marwin Gonzalez are not Rule 5 eligible, so I left them off.

I left Ely and White off since it is doubtful any team would draft them due to their Spring TJ surgeries.

I left Krauss and Laird off since they had trouble staying on the Astros 25 man roster.

Erik Bedard deserves a spot just for his trade value next summer.

Not sure about the very last spot.

 

My thinking as well but ...

I would be sweating bullets about losing John Ely and Alex White.

Has anyone heard how serious Owens's foot issue was? I put on my 40 man roster, since I am guessing that he should be ready to go for spring training.

 

Since those guys are on the 60 day DL, can't you just keep them on the DL through the offseason and not have to worry about exposing them to the rule 5 draft. Of course, once they're healthy you'd have to clear room or DFA them, but I think you can cross that bridge when you come to it and have more information.

And you can't leave Marwin and Rhiner off the 40 man without putting them through waivers. Neither of them would be a huge loss to the future, but I still have faith that Marwin can be a decent back-up middle infielder.

 

Also keep in mind that if we believe Luhnow, the Astros will be in the market for a couple mid-tier free agents this year.

Assuming no one else is traded in August or over the offseason, this would be my 40 roster by the Rule 5.

Position Players: 19 total
C Carlos Perez - 22
C Max Stassi - 23
C Jason Castro - 26
C Carlos Corporan - 29
1B Jonathan Singleton - 22
1B Brett Wallace - 27
1B/DH Chris Carter - 26
2B Jose Altuve - 23
2B Jake Elmore - 26
SS Marwin Gonzalez - 24
SS Jonathan Villar - 22
3B Matt Dominguez - 24
OF Domingo Santana - 20
OF Marc Krauss - 25
OF Brandon Barnes - 27
OF Robbie Grossman - 24
OF LJ Hoes - 23
OF JD Martinez - 26
OF Jimmy Paredes - 24

Pitchers: 16
RHP Asher Wojciechowski- 24
RHP Jake Buchanan - 23
RHP Josh Zeid - 26
RHP Jason Stoffel - 24
RHP Jose Cisnero - 24
RHP Paul Clemens - 25
RHP Jarred Cosart - 23
RHP Josh Fields - 28
RHP Lucas Harrell - 28
RHP Chia-Jen Lo - 27
RHP Jordan Lyles - 22
RHP David Martinez - 25
RHP Brad Peacock - 25
LHP Wesley Wright - 28
LHP Brett Oberholtzer - 24
LHP Dallas Keuchel - 25
Total: 35


Left Off:
C Rene Garcia - 23: Doubt the Astros move three minor league catchers onto the 40-man, so I have it between Garcia and Perez with possibility that they are both left off.
SS Jiovanni Mier - 22: Has been the most disappointing prospect over the last five years.
3B Brandon Laird - 26: Might be nice to keep around for major league depth, but has no future with the club
RHP Bobby Doran - 24: Some deserving players have to be left off, so I'd look for them leave off their low-ceiling arms
LHP Kevin Chapman - 25: May he sticks because he's left handed, but fits the profile of the standard Rule 5 flier.

If they have to, I think they'll protect Alex White, but I doubt they'll do the same for Ely or Owens.

I'd also expect them to sign to mid-low tier SP and an OF in free agency, which would put the 40 man roster at 37-38. They'll draft 1st in the Rule 5 again. Also, Springer will be up by May if not sooner, and Appel may follow shortly after.

 

I think the order of events is

1. set the 40 man roster
2. have the Rule 5 draft and re-adjust the 40/25 rosters if the team makes a Rule selection
3. sign FAs and re-adjust the 40/25 rosters

Every time the Astros readjust the 40 man roster, someone will get exposed on the waiver wire.

 

You are correct about White and Ely having to pass through waivers to remove them from the 40 man. There is no way White is left off the 40 man. I could see Ely being able to pass through waivers. Owens is still on the 40 man roster, and I'm not aware that he has ever made it through waivers.

 

So if the Astros dropped Ely and White from the 40 man roster, they would have to pass through waivers without being claimed and then still be Rule 5 eligible?

 

Good question. I'm not sure, but it's probably moot since if they are not claimed off waivers I doubt anyone is then going to draft them with the additional restriction that they have to be kept on the 25 man roster all year.