Abreu doesn’t get many high leverage opportunities in the regular season, those innings will more than likely go to Maton.
LOL. Fiers was NOT on that roster. Had he been there’s a good chance the “scandal” is never talked about by that ****ing rat.
IF Crane can pull it off I’d bet he gets a 10-12 mil raise, possibly a tad more but somewhere in that range feels right but we still have a ways to go
No worries. I think a lot of people forget that he was left off and he was bitter because of it. I think had he kept form from earlier that season and made it he keeps his mouth shut.
Seems reasonable. He does deserve a raise but some notable differences exist between him and Scherzer signing that 3year/$130m contract. -Scherzer was entering his age 37 season. Verlander is entering his age 40 season. Big but not fully understood difference. -the second part is wishful thinking but I don't see the group of teams willing to sign a top of market starter matching with needs and where Verlander would want to play. I seriously doubt NYY, NYM, LAD, SD, ATL, SF make a play for him. Contending teams that could use an over the top piece like Philly, ChiSox, Tor or Seattle I have no idea why he'd want to go there. The best option seems like meeting in the middle as you said. A 2year $66-70m contract seems reasonable.
This sounds about right. Apparently the 2nd year option is what set the Astros apart from others this year. Maybe add a vesting option 3rd year if he makes 50 starts or 300 IP over the 2 years.
At this point I think it’s very likely Verlander beats Scherzers deal and teams will be lined up to give him $120m/3yrs. I do think Houston should be favored to resign him and my prediction would be $140M/4yrs with an opt out after year 2 and $10M in ip incentives. Proven aces willing to sign short term deals don’t come along that often even if they’re old.
Lol, holy crap you and I are disagreeing bigly on contract predictions today. I don't see any team offering a a 4 year deal for age 39-43 seasons of anyone. Three years is a stretch. There's been 1 AAV >= $40m in all of baseball history: Scherzer. I strongly doubt multiple teams are lined up to offer a 39 y/o a multi-year $40m AAV deal. The top 6 highest AAV contracts in baseball belong to the LA and NY markets (NYM,NYY,LAD,LAA). I'd bet money none of those teams sign Verlander. If another team signs Verlander, it's gonna be a big sleeper. Verlander wants to play for a competitive baseball team and I've seen nothing to suggest that he hasn't had a positive experience with the organization (cheating scandal stuff aside). I guess we'll see.
Can't do that. The Hall selects the logo on the hat, after an alleged controversy with Wade Boggs and the Rays (which he denies).
True. Though in that hypothetical scenario where Verlander plays 5 more seasons with the Stros..... if he expressed a strong desire to wear the Astros cap, the HoF would have a reasonable argument to let him do so. Pre-trade: 12.5 seasons. 1 MVP/Cy Young, 2 Cy Young Runner up's, 6 all-star appearances, 183 wins Post-trade already: 1 Cy Young, 1 Cy Young runner up, 3 all-star appearances, 1 WS ring. He's probably the odds on favorite for the CYA this year. If he played 5 more seasons with the Stros, that'd put him at 8.5 seasons in Houston. I'd give him at least 2 more all-star appearances and making it to 300 wins. Thus if he makes it to 45 as an Astro, he'd have a strong argument to wear an Astros cap in the HoF. Granted, he'd have to want to do that. He has an abiding fondness for his time in Detroit.
At most I see is a front loaded 3 year deal, with a vesting 3rd year player option. Similar to his current contract. He plays a certain number of innings in the second year, he has an option for 3rd year. Give him 40-45 million the first year with an opt out. So he continues getting top dollar as he is playing well, and gets a decent parting gift, as his production falls off
Add a mutual option with a high buy out (3-5 million)l in the case of retirement. And you probably get it done.
Clemens and Ryan are pretty much the only 2 pitchers ever to be as effective as Verlander at this age. So it’s really hard to apply any known recent market dynamics to him. But yeah I could be totally overestimating his market. I will be pissed if he ends up elsewhere for <$120M.
