Asset Forfeiture: ACLU Sues DEA Over Trucker's Seized Cash

No, they are not as evidenced by the fact that drug dealers are able to get their money, as are terrorists and other organized criminals.

Prohibition has caused us to give up on a number of liberties that some of our founding fathers felt were so important that they would not sign the Constitution unless those rights were enumerated in the first ten Amendments.

Congratulations on your willingness to give up your rights in order to support a system that does not (and cannot) work, has wasted more money than any other program in US history, and has been proven to be absolutely ineffectual.

Bravo.

 

No, you provided a link that shows that you have to declare $10,000 or more at customs, not that they have a right to seize your money when you are travelling through the country.

Do you even pay attention to the points you are trying to make?

 

Thi gy was not even CHARGED with engaging in illegal activities. They cited him for a worn tire for crying out loud.

You are the perfect example of someone who has been twisted by the drug war propaganda to the point that you are perfectly OK giving up liberties that Washington, Jefferson, Adams, and Franklin fought to give you.

The drug war kills more people, deprives more people of liberty, and costs us more blood money than any other policy in this country since Lincoln freed the slaves.

 

No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property (money is property, no?) without due process of law.

Pretty clear language.

 

Yes, as he said in the article, he cannot pay his bills because his money has been seized. In addition, he will be unable to pay his lawyer until his money is returned, and the government will not have to pay penalties or interest, so this guy will have to pay legal fees out of his own pocket for a seizure that shouldn't have happened in the first place.

Is your fantasy world nice?

No, it wouldn't. It was his money and there was so little evidence that they couldn't cite him for more than a worn tire.

He went through a customs checkpoint, not customs. They have checkpoints up to 30 miles inside the border, which is nearly every place around El Paso.

In addition, he was stopped for the tire at a weigh station, but got through the customs checkpoint without any hassle whatsoever. Obviously, customs didn't think his money was dirty or they would have seized it themselves.

It is his money, it should be up to him what to do with it and when. Are you telling me that if your bank account was frozen that you wouldn't have some need for that money?

Knowing the asset forfeiture laws, I would carry ironclad proof of where my money came from if I were carryin that much.

You are good at just making s*** up, aren't you.

You have gone from an article where a man with no evidence against him ha his life savings seized to the conclusion that he is a drug dealer who should lose that money for good. How can you claim that the drug war has not warped your perception?

 

Speeders kill far more people than drugs do every year. Look at the statistics. That is the point he is making, but you are good at ignoring the point, aren't you?

By the way, I was a drug abuse counselor for several years, so don't even attempt to pretend that you know something about the "impact of drugs" that I do not. The impact of prohibition is far worse than the impact of drugs could ever be.

 

Which brings us back to the point that you keep ignoring...that confiscation is wrong.

I am sorry that you have so little imagination that you can only assume illegal activities in this case, but it continues to drive home the point that the drug war has twisted our priorities to the point that some people are actually OK with this.

The drug war has caused the most egregious and systematic infringements on the rights of Americans since slavery. In fact, in many ways, it is the new slavery (since private corporations run prisons for profit off the back of the cheap labor) that affects people of color in an extremely disproportianate way.

Claiming otherwise is folly.

 

I will, once they become a state.

You are delusional. Property is anything that a person owns.

 

I don't believe you are a DEA agent, I can just see that the drug war has warped you into believeing that giving up our rights is OK.

 

Wow. You can't even acknowlege that "property" is more than just land?

The founding fathers also included "papers" in their description of what we would be secure in. Does money fit into that definition in your reality?