Asset Forfeiture: ACLU Sues DEA Over Trucker's Seized Cash

he went through customs before being stopped.

 

already provided a link - please don't make me repeat stuff.

 

that or your conspiracy nature has warped you into thinking that people engaging in illegal activities are somehow innocent victims.

 

As someone has stated, cash is not elibgle for due process of law.

 

Speeding is a serious offense and endangers the public welfare.

Every year approximately 40,000 motorists are involved in a fatal accident.
http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx

http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/toptens/accidents/accidentsFULL.html

Notice that all drug related fatalities amount to less than 10,000 in total.

Just sayin'.

Also, think the government won't seize your car for breaking a traffic law? Think again.

http://www.gslawyers.com/PracticeAreas/DWI-License-Penalties.asp

It's not a no-no, you just have to declare it. Not very astute of you. And neither you nor I know whether he declared it. But logic dictates that since he declared it to the cop, he would have declared it at customs.

Right, law enforcement agents and the DEA never make a bad decision

Really? Prove that the drug war has been effective. I can show you many statistics that say that the drug business is doing well despite the "war on drugs."

fixed.

 

Property shouldn't even be able to be charged as a criminal party.

 

Wait - this money was his savings right? Now he needs to spend his savings?

Yeah right. The more I read, the more I realize this guy was up to something illegal and I'm glad his dirty money was taken. At first I thought it was unfair, now I realize it's him, not the law.

Let's review:

1. He has 23K in cash. We don't know if it was all 20's of the same demonination or if it was a bunch of cruppled up 100's. That certainly would make a difference.
2. He was a truck driver living in El Paso but he went through customs. Why? Did he cross the border? The details of this were not revealed.
3. He claims the money was for savings...but now he needs to spend his savings for repairs? Nice timing!
4. He says he had income stubs proving the cash is legit. Ok, this is the one that got me. Not only does he carry his savings with him in his truck - but he also carries proof on how he got the money!?!?!?!

Think about that. That means he knows someone might question him on the legitmacy of the money - that means he knows it's suspicious to carry around that much cash, which means he knows it's associated with illegal activity. He knows people put their money in the bank, and he knows he could lose his money if he is stopped. And yet he does it anyway.

He must know what's up. He lives in El Paso. He works in transportation. He must know about all that goes on in his locality. This guy isn't some victim, he's up to no good. The authoritizes realized this and seized his money.

Good for them.

 

great, so you agree than that the idea of due process doesn't apply.

 

No. I'm saying charging property as a criminal party in order to get around constitutional protections against illegal searches&seizure is...well, unconstitutional.

Just because the statute allows it doesn't mean it negates basic tenets of justice.

 

why don't you go watch Traffic another 20 times? This isn't about how effective the drug war is or isn't. But you have to try to stop crime.

There are murders in a city, does that mean you just let them happen? Oh well, we can't stop murders, so let's just stop going after murderers?

What your view is on the drug war is one thing, but these guys are doing their jobs...and that's seizing cash near border areas under suspicious circumstances.

And to compare drug trafficking to speeding is a joke. You have no idea the impact of drugs can have on communities and on people's lives if you try to defend drug trafficking. Really just crazy.

 

No, they are merely seizing evidence.

 

Didn't say anything about stopping murderers. Did say something about breaking into peoples homes and stealing their guns because they might commit murder with them.

That's a subjective judgement.

 

i'm just doing the same thing you are with your speeding argument. I can play like that too ya know.

and yeah, it's subjective, so are most debates.

 

Funny, because i'm using the speeding argument as a foil to your "omg having lots of cash near a border means automatically you're related to drugs!" argument.

And yes, all debates have a subjective element, but when you base your entire argument on the subjective, don't expect me to give it any credibility.

 

Then the debate is over!