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Assessing the trade value of the Rockets players in terms of this Draft

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Mar 22, 2022.

  1. xtruroyaltyx

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    Some of these guys could probably use a separate thread with their own polls...But...

    Kevin Porter Jr. - Any pick
    Christian Wood - Ideally a mid first, but would take a late first
    Jae'Sean Tate - Mid - Late first
    Eric Gordon - Late First
    Alperen Sengun - mid lottery
    KJ Martin - Late lottery to mid first
    Garrison Mathews - Any pick
     
  2. Amel

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    Kevin Porter Jr. - late 20th
    Christian Wood - top 10
    Jae'Sean Tate - top 20
    Eric Gordon - top 20
    Alperen Sengun - top 5
    KJ Martin - top 15
    Garrison Mathews - late 20th
     
  3. Bo6

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    Kevin Porter Jr. : 2nd Round
    Christian Wood : 1 late first and 1 future first
    Jae'Sean Tate : late 1st
    Eric Gordon : future 1st
    Alperen Sengun : mid round pick + rotation player
    KJ Martin : late 1st
    Garrison Mathews : don't need compensation.
     
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  4. Amel

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    2022 picks, no future picks if I understand this correctly
     
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  5. daywalker02

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    Somehow fixated at the Alp and Zion trade huh...
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  6. anchel

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    I'd say they are valued like..:

    Kevin Porter Jr. - late 1st
    Christian Wood - mid 1st
    Jae'Sean Tate - late 1st
    Eric Gordon - mid-late 1st
    Alperen Sengun - mid-late lottery
    KJ Martin - early 2nd
    Garrison Mathews - late 2nd
     
  7. ThatBoyNick

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    Odd so many people see Gary as definitively less valuable than the others.

    Not too many guys who can hit high volume tough 3's while shooting an elite 60+ TS% on a 4 year vet min hinkie special. Not to mention he has size at 6'5 215, and while not very good he always tries hard on D. I'd say he has equal if not more value than KPJ, EG, Tate.
     
  8. Williamson

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    Kevin Porter Jr = lottery pick (I know. I like him better than a lot of you)
    Christian Wood = Any first. Maybe with a second round pick too.
    Jae'Sean Tate = 20th or better, assuming there is a player the Rockets like in that range.
    Eric Gordon = Any first.
    Alperen Sengun = I'd only trade him if we drafted Chet and like him better. In that case, I'd only be willing to trade him for a top 4 in which I can take Jaden Ivey.
    KJ Martin = Any first round pick.
    Garrison Mathews = Any first round pick. And, for that matter, if somebody falls to the second round that the Rockets really like I'd consider that too. He's really cooled off.
     
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  9. SamFisher

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    Porter Jr - could meltdown at any second, no value to other teams. Would take anything

    Wood - the Wood stigma is a real thing, Zac Lowe, Bill Simmons etc voiced it recently - meaningless box score stats guy on a bad team, no defense, big ego. That's his rep, fair or not. Clearly not a foundation piece at age 27, would take any 1st. I still said it would be good to see if he actually could be a Bosh lite playing next to LeBron/Wade level talents and doing fewer things but seems like we'll never know

    Tate - valuable on a good team as a No3&D dirty worker where he can have his shooting hidden as the designated non-shooter. Would take any 1st.

    Gordon - LoL would take any 1st, even a 22 - you hear me Stonetitta - instead of wasting him which is the current plan.

    Sengun - would take a lotto pick, maybe. I like Sengun i have doubts about his limits being closer than they appear.

    Martin - would take a first but i don't see that coming. Knows his role! Keep.

    Matthews - would take anything. 2 trick pony. But who cares, keep him too - he doesn't cost anything and knows his role.
     
  10. Rockets34Legend

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    ....while everyone stands around while he show boats, jacks 3s, and our PF/SFs get manhandled in the paint.
     
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  11. groovemachine

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    Kevin Porter Jr. 50th

    Christian Wood 30th

    Jae'Sean Tate 40th

    Eric Gordon 30th

    Alperen Sengun 12th

    KJ Martin 40th

    Garrison Mathews 50th
     
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  12. Clutch

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    Here's where I would put them:

    Kevin Porter Jr. : #25
    Christian Wood : #12
    Jae'Sean Tate : #16
    Eric Gordon : #15
    Alperen Sengun : #8
    KJ Martin : #20
    Garrison Mathews : #35

    If I could flip Wood for Duren, I would -- even though Duren is no sure thing. Sengun is a tough one because I don't necessarily want to move him, but if I could get a different center prospect, I would consider trading him for a AJ Griffin, Shaedon Sharpe, Keegan Murray or Bennedict Mathurin. The others are tougher but I would rather have a 4-year rookie contract than KPJ, for example.
     
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  13. groovemachine

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    Yes, he won't quit on the team
     
  14. groovemachine

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    Finally, someone with a reasonable take
     
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  15. SamFisher

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    I think those values are high - FRP's are hard to come by now with OKC, the Rockets and other tankish teams hoarding them - unless OKC starts recycling its haul back into the market. At some point they'll have to.

    It's the same as the trade deadline - Lakers and other win now teams simply don't have that much to give.
     
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  16. groovemachine

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    This is overvaluing Sengun imo, he's not good enough defensively to warrant a top 5 pick. I voted top 12 for Sengun, you could get a possible allstar between 5 and 10 in this years draft, plus they would be under team control for an additional year.
     
  17. theDude

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    The lowest pick I would take for each:

    Garrison Mathews #30
    Kevin Porter Jr. #25
    Jae'Sean Tate #25
    Eric Gordon #20
    Christian Wood #18
    KJ Martin #15
    Alperen Sengun #2
     
  18. hajkov

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    Kevin Porter Jr. - cash considerations or Houston pays for the team to take him
    Christian Wood - lottery pick
    Jae'Sean Tate - late first
    Eric Gordon - anything - has earned the right to go to the contender he wishes
    Alperen Sengun - top 5 pick
    KJ Martin - 2nd rounder
    Garrison Mathews - late first
     
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  19. clutchdabear

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    kpj - one-way ticket to china
    cwood - mid-late 1st* (requirement that the other team's gm has to be an absolute dumbass)
    tate - mid-late 1st
    EG - mid-late 1st
    sengun - top 7 lotto pick (ideally i wouldn't want to trade him unless really blown away)
    kj martin - late 1st
    mathews - early 2nd
     
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  20. ThatBoyNick

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    To be fair, what I answered was different from the question Clutch asked.

    Clutch is essentially asking, what's the worst pick you'd consider a can't refuse offer for X players, not what's fair value.

    My post was what I believe their market values are, and then I named the players I would probably sell for said values.


    If I'm answering Clutch's question as proposed


    KPJ - #40

    Wood - #25

    Tate - #30

    Gordon - #40

    Sengun - #6

    Martin - #15

    Mathews - #25


    Ultimately, I'd be happy to see Wood/EG/KPJ gone so I'd sell fairly cheap on them, and I'd rather keep Sengun/Martin/Mathews so I'd overvalue them, and I'm just split on keeping Tate.
     

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