Not really, there was security there, they saw him get out of the taxi, he may have come for mayhem but he was made, it wasn't much of a threat, just one nut job and he turned himself in...... Too bad we can't get that level of police protection for our children. And yes, this is a nothing burger, glad the guy called himself in....Kavanaugh is a turd, but he should not be killed because I think he is a wet booger on the finger.....maybe impeached....but not shot. But, our country loves it's guns, and doesn't spend money on mental health anymore - so we get embarrassing mass murders, and targeted politicians because we refuse to use common sense as our leadership is bribed by big corporations and PACs.....screw what the people want..... Amirite! DD
Fascinating whataboutism. This is the Assasination Attempt on Supreme Court Justice thread. But sure, lets get everyone's thoughts on every other topic in human history while we are here.
If it was a liberal justice and the person was a far right crazy you would treat the moment with sarcasm and derision and not take the opportunity to condemn the right? Sure Jan.
Sure. If that ever happens that will be as big of a story. We'll have to wait for that to happen since it hasn't thus far.
Actually it was about why the story of the judge and would-be assassin isn't bigger news. There are other more significant stories happening. I just was naming some of them.
Nicholas Roske Used Reddit and Discord To Plan Assassination of Kavanaugh And Potentially Two Other Justices Chilling information revealed from the search warrant affidavit. https://reason.com/volokh/2022/07/2...kavanaugh-and-potentially-two-other-justices/
@SamFisher do you condemn this assassination attempt on not one, not two, but three Supreme Court justices?
Who wouldn’t condemn assassinations?? Kind of a ridiculous assertion to cast on someone. It’s even murky around here about assassinating Vladamir Putin for crying out loud. I actually want to protect justices like Kavanaugh though by removing incentive to assassination. The system now heavily incentivizes an assassination or at least creates an environment that creates a rally cry for death as we saw with RGB where the right was constantly gleeful about her demise. I want to protect Kavanaugh and Kagan and Roberts etc. by giving them term limits or a rotating bench so there’s a democratic way of replacing them that does not incentivize assassination. So are you really serious about protecting Kavanaugh and co too?? Why don’t you also want to remove political incentives to assassination??
But this isn't a threat to our Constitutional Republic like Jan 6th. You know... that event when 1 person was killed, and no properties or businesses were burned down or destroyed yet people are still locked up.
Why is there an either/or? Can't we lock up people who were part of an attempt to overthrow our election and also lock up anyone intent on killing Supreme Court Justices? Also, Jan 6th involved coordination and planning from people at the top of our government, was a direct attack on our democracy and there are still criminals at large.
I can also assume that since you didn’t answer my question you aren’t really serious about protecting Supreme Court justices and are only trying to propagate narratives about the left for political gain. If you were serious about protecting judges you’d support removing incentives for assassinations.
wait, I missed something here . . . is there some kind of bounty program for assassinations I haven't heard about?
@dobro1229 thinks term limits for judges are an assassination disincentive. therefore, the constitutionally mandated lifetime term is an incentive to kill justices.
Yes… lifetime appointments for political positions of governance over the masses. You make yourself king for life then you are much much more likely to get taken out. Of course they could just not be political and not forcefully govern. We have term limits on the presidency for good reason but now the Supreme Court basically acts as a governing body. If you are going to be a governing political actor in a democracy, you just can’t have a lifetime appointment imo. The people and the opposition have no way to advocate for a peaceful solution to changing the behavior of the governing body. Imagine if Obama took office in 2008 and there was no way for the right to offer their crazy followers a path to democratic change in 4 years because Obama had a lifetime appointment to the office of the presidency. Do you think Obama would have been more or less safe??
The constitution did not appoint them as a politically governing entity with political supermajorities with no way for Congress or the Executive branch to regulate the Supreme Court. The Constitution clearly never thought they’d operate as kings and never intended for Congress to neuter their ability to regulate them. I have no problem with lifetime judgeships if they aren’t politically governing positions and if they have ways of being regulated by other branches of government. The Supreme Court is broken because the Senate is broken and it has definitely made Supreme Court justices very unsafe to the point where they now NEED the same level of Security that Sadam or Gaddafi had… which is basically what you are asking for… the security detail that would normally be needed for some two bit dictator. Even that level of security can’t always help you as evidenced throughout history over and over again. So I’m actually advocating for these guys to be safe. What you are advocating for is giving them the same level of safety that Gaddafi had given the level of power you want them to have with no democratic alternative given to changing the power they have over the masses.
I can't help you if you don't understand history. What lifetime appointed/anointed governing political position has ever been safe from assassination? The GOP rallying cry to get SCOTUS judges the type of security that a dictator would typically have tells you everything you need to know about how much of a failure the modern power that SCOTUS has. If you guys are that paranoid about their safety that's like telling on yourself that you know they have way more power than they should in a Democracy.
