Here is what I see, a nation that offers and supports salvation for memorization of the Koran even to crminials. Memorization of the Koran is in keeping with literal rhetoric. Based on the venomous rhetoric of the Koran towards outsiders as cited in a previous post, it is in keeping with Iran's philosophy of desiring the nation of Israel to be wiped off the face of the Earth as stated in the past. The Koran and the Iranians' memorization of rhetoric is fuel for the CONFRONTATION... According to what is interpreted, Iranians who memorize the Koran as the sanctity of the word must make war, show no mercy, bury women halfway in the dirt and stone them, and be prepared to die for god willing. There are I'm sure your "cafeteria" muslims who won't embrace the wording and find psychological balance, but Iran is displaying it's substantial reverance for the Koran, and when a nation talks and acts the way it does, it does so based on a purpose. That purpose is virtues of the Koran, god willing...
I don't know why this thread is even continuing. Didn't you guys see this: There is nothing to worry about, because Iran is not developing and has no intention of developing nuclear weapons.
Iran will not enrich uranium above 5%: MP TEHRAN, May 27 (MNA) -- Iran does not seek to enrich uranium above 5 percent, Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Committee rapporteur Kazem Jalali said on Saturday. “We have repeatedly declared that we aim to produce fuel for nuclear reactors by enriching uranium and enrichment up to 3.5 to 5 percent will suffice for that end,” he told the Iranian Students News Agency (ISNA). “Therefore we do not want to enrich uranium above 5 percent,” he said in reference to Iranian UN ambassador, Javad Zarif’s remarks on Friday that Tehran is willing to accept a cap on the level of enrichment. "This cap I think should be below 10, meaning reactor grade," Zarif said. Iran plans to construct 20 nuclear reactors, Jalali added. “We are ready to hold talks within the framework of international law and give guarantees that our nuclear activities will not divert (into manufacturing weapons),” he noted. Britain, France, and Germany have recently prepared a package of incentives to try to persuade Tehran to suspend uranium enrichment, with the threat of sanctions if Iran does not accept the deal. Jalali also voiced Tehran’s readiness to invite other countries to participate in the construction of nuclear power plants in the country. http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=332222 ...The Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has issued the Fatwa that the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islam and that Iran shall never acquire these weapons, it added..... http://mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=302258 Do you dare say I am lying?
I think Iran initially intended to develop a full-fledged nuclear program for military AND energy purposes, but now with the type of scrutiny they're receiving, there is little evidence to believe that they still hope to do so, because their activities are being monitored and they wouldn't get away with it no matter how 'secretive' they wanted to be about it.
Iran is even willing to accept a cap on uranium enrichment, which will be monitored by the IAEA: http://www.mehrnews.ir/en/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=331796 What else do people want? Maybe the West just doesn't want to see a developing nation develop technologically and scientifically.
North Korea said and did many of the same things and suddenly had nuclear weapons. The devil is in the details.
Just curious, tiger... what was your purpose in starting this thread? You posted the title of an Asia Times article (which was loaded with opinion), without any comment, whatsoever, and then sat back to see what response you would get. It's the sort of thing one or two posters do here, on a regular basis, but not something I see you typically do. Just wondering what your reasoning was behind an atypical thread. Are you on a mission, tiger? And if you're wondering why I responded with a silly photo, circa WW I, it was in the spirit of how I saw your thread, at least as it was started by you. No comment, just a link. No comment, just a photo. As best I can tell, they are both of equal value. Keep D&D Civil.
Bad things happen when you take lines out of a book out of context. The Bible can look pretty evil if you do the same.
What the U.S. has to do is four things 1 Find another source of energy that we can use that doesn't come from the middle east 2 Continue to build Iraqis military to a strength where they don't need us anymore then leave 3 let the EU Russia and China deal with Iran if they build the bomb let Israel destroy Iran with its 100-300 H-bombs 4 its payback time one weekend in the next couple of months we Americans should march in an anti Iran rally in every major American city, they have been doing it for 27 years it is about time we do it our selves have some fun lets build the worlds largest Iranian flag and burn it
If I was to slander the complete ignorance and racist non-sense of the pro Iranian war crowd I would be ashamed to sink so low to characterize their non-sense as evidenced by Roxran.. Roxran, gives us an example in real time of the type of thinking that completely dehumanizes other populations, that leads folks to support demagogues putting Jews in Aauscwitz or engaging in the massacre in Ruwanda. Yet Roxran is just an ordinary guy whipped into a fury by he knows not what. Roxran needs therapy, prayer, something. Hopefully he will some day be embarassed by such thinking just like the supporters of the Holocaust when it was happening, are now embarassed. Roxran knows or at least fears that Iranians are inhuman mad men who would all gladly all die to kill one red blooded true blue American like he, Roxran. Unbelievable. Unbelievably ignorant and xenophobic.
LOL! You're reading waaaaaay too much into it, Deckard. I don't feel compelled to give my opinion on everything I post, especially when the article itself (as you already pointed out) is somewhat reflective of the author's opinion. But the main reason why I posted this article was because it gave us somewhat of an insight into what the Iranian leadership is thinking and what they're doing to counter what they consider to be an impending threat against their nation. Moreover, the author is/was stationed inside Iran, he talked to the people, got to hear first-hand of what they think about the current 'standoff', what the leadership thinks, etc. To that end, the article is informative, not just an op-ed. Sorry for the confusion, I merely thought it was an interesting read.
You sure about that? If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God... ... Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. ... As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. ... You must completely destroy the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites, just as the LORD your God has commanded you. ... Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. ... If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives. ... They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman I could go on, but you get the point. Bad things happen when you take quotes out of context.
lol poor countries are funny we've got all the nukes in the world and it's a big accomplishment for them to get one.
I'm still sure... Where is the link with cited passages? I'm not questioning the integrity of what you posted but it should be included. Irregardless, saddled side by side, the out of context rhetoric is slanted with greater vile from the Koran. I'm not excusing that out of context passages can be derived from the Bible, but I stand by that the Bible does not nearly approach the same intensity level of "looking evil" when you weigh each of their respective out of context wording against one another.
