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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ThatBoyNick, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    Thank you for the civilized response. I, too, hope that everyone here is ultimately for less people dying, although I'm not so sure when I see people like @Rileydog get triggered when he's presented data showing declining deaths.

    I'm not so sure that deaths are correlated with a four week timeframe after the case is recorded. If you look at cases in the US, they peaked in late April/early May, and the daily deaths peaked right about that same timeframe (or even possibly a week earlier). I've heard theories that the virus may have evolved to a weaker form, or that increased testing is catching a lot of the asymptomatic folks that were never caught before, or possibly that increased testing is getting people medical help earlier, leading to fewer deaths.

    In any event, hopefully we can all be pleased that the daily deaths in the US are dropping like a rock. I'll keep wearing my mask...and looking at the factual data.
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    And now FL is *hush hush, mums the word* advising people to wear masks... and participating in events with 50 or more, and social distancing... but gee, neither of the two guys below are setting a good example, so why should I?



     
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    This "no mask" fervor is moving beyond Trumpers. It's uncomfortable and nasty in high humidity.

    You can see people justify not wearing one inside public spaces by claiming "if Trumpers and MAGATS don't wear one, why should I???"

    Bwubwubububutt dat's a blue state thing.

    NY has been and is still a mess!!

    Do your jerbs biased media!
     
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    Talk about scare tactics... retrumplicans continue to show that there is no low too low...

     
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    Hella nasty and cynical to claim public health officials want to ban churches, when large indoor gatherings like churches have been proven vectors for super spreading.

    I'm sick of the hand wringing over "messaging" for more outdoor meetings or slight changes that can spread the message w/o putting elderly and others at risk.

    It's these shitbags doing most of the damage, and the church authority's willingness to roll over or fan those flames while failing to adapt or accept what's really happening.
     
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    ― William Blake, Auguries of Innocence
     
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    Opened up bars and other high transmission places too soon...

     
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    You've moved on to trying to provide "smart-sounding quotes" instead of actually trying to debate facts. You're defeated, and can't recover, so you've resorted to this nonsense.

    Next time do your homework, have an open mind, and you won't be embarrassed like you just were.
     
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    ... and here's your retrumplican effort to convince Americans to not wear masks...

     
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    "Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think."
    --Martin Luther King, Jr.

    I'm sorry you lack the capacity to understand what he said. You have a long way to go to overcome your ignorance.
     
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    Count so far. All Texas counties haven't reported yet.
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    Houston we have a problem! More new cases than 48 states.
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    Close the bars and close indoor dining. Close all indoor recreational non-essential businesses. Movie theatres will reopen requiring masks, but come on now. Everybody knows you can't eat and drink concession bar snacks with a mask on.

    Stop the spread!
     
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    California is not doing great yall. People are wearing masks, but foot traffic and road traffic feels like it's back to normal.

    I got some carry out recently and restaurants are taking precautions. Don't know about stores, but eyeballing the parking lots look like they're at 80%.
     
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    meanwhile, in data that matters, deaths in the US today will be the lowest for a Monday since mid March. The trend down continues in daily deaths.
     
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    The death rate always lags several weeks behind the infection rate," top infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci told me.

    https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-c...lts-c5a51f4f-65b5-4c35-90fb-8891b63ee022.html
    Also, if hospitals get overwhelmed with patients deaths will increase. We saw that happen in Italy and NYC. We need to take more action BEFORE we reach that point.
     
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    I wonder how much dexamethasone will reduce deaths given its cheapness and decent efficacy. It's a great discovery (1/3 optimistic reduction is better than nothing), but that doesn't reduce the hospital bed count.
     
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    But if the cases are mostly in young people, they aren't going to die. Tiny percentage chance anybody under 60 dies from this. Protect the extreme elderly, the obese, diabetics and those with lung/heart problems.
     
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    About 1 in a thousand for young people, which is actually a much higher rate than most widespread infectious diseases for young people. And then there are young people who get complications. But vast majority of young people will have uncomplicated course.

    My worry is not for my siblings to get it, but them infecting our parents.
     
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    The increasing number of cases can still be purely a function of more prevalent testing, though, right? Is there a way to adjust for that? I'm surprised after all these months, there still doesn't seem to be a good measure for how severe the situation actually is.
     
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