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As we drink the Morey Kool-Aid...We are all Guilty

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by reupdadj1, Feb 13, 2010.

  1. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Member

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    Are you forgetting the young talent on our team? Cal Landry and Aaron Brooks? How do you think they got here?
     
  2. BetterThanEver

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  3. albuster

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    As I said you are so full of yourself you can't even read someone's post properly yet you infer so much garbage. Grow up and shut up.
     
  4. cardpire

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    OP is right in general. of course, his opinion isn't welcome, because 99% of the posters on here are blinded homers who can't see the forest for the trees.

    morey made good draftpicks on brooks and landry, and i guess he can get credit for bringing scola here too. guess what though? other GMs make good draftpicks as well. those arent the only 2 good draftpicks made in the nba over the past 4 years. other than these, he's done nothing to improve our team.

    he's an average gm. nothing more, nothing less. anybody who thinks he's a great gm has overbought into is hype.

    couple this with the fact that he's stubborn, pompous, and doesn't seem to understand that the goal is to win rings rather than get production out of marginal players, and i'd rather take my chances with most other gms in the league.

    feel free to flame away, folks.
     
  5. t_mac1

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    like ariza, we can't judge him until next year.

    if the rockets still can't get a legit start for next season, then it'll be hard for me to say: "oh, morey just didn't find anyone that fit so he made a great choice."

    the only legit superstar available is bosh and he's not going anywhere.

    iggy and kmart are the next tier and only iggy is available but morey is not willing to give up any rotational player (shane battier's name is still here is what shocks me. people will say, "hey wait till we play kobe!" uh... we're not going to win this season so who cares if kobes goes off against us).

    for other trades, i'm glad we didn't make them. the only trade i was hopeful for is some package with haywood b/c he's actually a very good defensive player and would be of a great help when yao returns.

    but again, a great GM is judged by the stars he brings in. i'll give morey a chance after this offseason. we have a lot of player assets, along with a possible huge expiring contract... so we have to do something this offseason that is of great impact.
     
  6. v3.0

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    please name those other GMs that their team is playing above .500 ball right now

    I'll go ahead and spot you the lakers, spurs, cavs, and mavs who all have healthy superstars right now that they have been building around for years.

    In fact, you name any GM right now that their team is playing well, and they will most likely have top tier superstars that are healthy. Those don't grow on trees and Caron Butler isn't a top tier superstar.
     
  7. TheGM

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    First, if you're going to try an argue at least use middle school level grammar, so people can take you somewhat seriously.

    So, the fact that he made numerous great draft picks late in the draft for guys like Budinger, Landry, and Brooks doesn't mean much. Can you name another GM, who has gotten similar caliber players that late in the draft the last few years?

    "i guess he can get credit for bringing scola here too"
    Really? So, he trades a player who no longer wants to play in the NBA to a division rival for Scola, and you "guess he can get credit."


    "he's done nothing to improve our team."
    How about trading Bobby Jackson, Donte Green and a draft pick for Ron Artest? Wasn't that done to improve the team? He can't predict the fall of our fragile stars.

    Oh and how about trading Rafer Alston, who just got waived by the Nets, for Kyle Lowry?

    "couple this with the fact that he's stubborn, pompous,"
    Where the hell did you get this from? Tracy, is that you? I know you never got past high school but you're grammar should be better than that.
     
  8. cardpire

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    eh, you've lost the right to argue with me because you're too stupid. i would have gladly responded to the rest, but not when you end with this comment.

    not sure that you know what "grammar" means, because the excerpt you just quoted is grammatically correct.


    by the way, "you're" is a contraction for "you are". as in "You're Pwned". "Your" is an adjective relating to one's possession of something, as in "Your mom likely dropped you on your head as a baby."
     
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  9. TheGM

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    Have you heard of the concept of capitalizing letters? If you're going to try to defend yourself, at least do that.

    You can't respond my initial post. Your entire post consists of stupid nonsensical arguments.
     
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  10. Russjr2

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    Im trying to understand all of the hostility being put out towards Morey for not landing Butler and Haywood from the Wiz.... Hmmm, how is it his fault they didn't want to accept our deal, but chose to take the Mav's deal instead? Making a trade is not easy in the NBA. Especially when dealing with one player that makes 23 mil and hasnt really played in 2 years. There are so many factors that have to be considered when trying to make a trade. A lot of you seem to forget that. Morey will not make a deal just to 'make a deal'. Trade deadline is not until Thur so he still has a few days to try to find a willing trade partner with players or assets that fit our team now and going forward.
     
  11. durvasa

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    And if he doesn't make a deal, its not the end of the world. The season is pretty much over as far as the possibility of making noise in the playoffs. I don't know why people want to rush to judgment at this stage. Let's see what the roster looks like next November.
     
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    it appears that a whole bunch of nothing has been accomplished in this thread.
     
  13. Z-Ro&Trae

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    people already forgetting about the 2010 free agent class this summer. fans want the rockets to improve now. unfortunately fans dont always get what they want.
     
  14. sephiroth.hk

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    No one forget 2010 summer and No one understand why Moery sign Ariza this summer...
    At 2010 summer, Rockets only have about 10m to resign scola, lowry and sign a free agent Now.
     
  15. cardpire

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    i've repeated this ad nauseum on these boards, but i'll do it one last time: the way morey went hard after gortat and ariza this summer, 2 marginal role players who emerged over a short span in the playoffs, should be alarming to anybody with a brain.
     
  16. TheGM

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    We wouldn't have had max money, whether or not we used the MLE this off season. Lowry's a RFA next year.
     
  17. burnnotice

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    I'll see your ad nauseum and raise you two more;

    Name one GM that is really good. Jerry West is about as close as you can get.

    Joe Dumars: Finds a diamond in the rough in Ben Wallace in a trade for Grant Hill, just before Hill became injured, Trades for Billups, takes a huge risk in Rasheed Wallace, Skips Carmelo, Wins Championship. Then it all came tumbling down and now The Pistons don't look like they know wtf they are doing 5 years after they were on top of the NBA.

    Danny Ainge: Literally got fleeced out of Brandon Roy by Portland. Anyone remember Marcus Banks? Dumped Antoine Walker and Tony Delk for Raef Lafrentz and change. Flounders around in the lottery for years and then he turns one good asset in Al Jefferson into Kevin Garnett. Bing, Championship.


    Again, how much of this is good general managing and how much of it is just plain luck?
     
  18. Air Langhi

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    Being a good GM is mainly about getting lucky. however I got give credit the logo. If you made a trade with him you usually got screwed.
     
  19. Hak34

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    Well this isn't very hard. Charlotte and Memphis. Unless your going to tout Zach Randolph and Gerald Wallace (marginal all stars at best-which shouldn't Brooks and Landry be about the same thing) as the SUPERSTARS...top tier that is.
     
  20. v3.0

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    They're about on par with the Rockets record wise also. That doesn't make Jordan a great personnel mind all of a sudden, and Rod Higgins is just his puppet GM. Chris Wallace has actually made some nice moves, but comparing him to Morey is a wash and I think Morey has done more with less (no pun intended).
     

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