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Article: We can't buy out Dream's contract (****!)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Dec 27, 1999.

  1. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    this is an old article from the Houston Chronicle in a long interview over dinner with Fran Blinebury.

    1st. According to Dream, he only briefly mentioned this with ownership during the course of discussing several future plans.

    2nd. A buy-out cannot exceed 50% of remaining contract. It is pitiful, and to me, disgusting, to expect Dream to take only 50% of his remaining contract.

    3rd. The buy-out amount still counts toward the salary cap next year.

    4th. There are other ways to unload $10-11m from salary to free-up $9m in cap room (but realistically that involves trading Cato)

    5th. You really think Duncan is going anywhere?
     
  2. Dr of Dunk

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    Hey Heypartner,

    No offense, but I don't find it pitiful or disgusting to ask someone to take somewhere between $5-7.5 million for not playing. Hmm... but then maybe it's just me. [​IMG]

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  3. heypartner

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    DD,

    I meant, it would be pitiful to ask him to step down for 50% if he didn't want to.

    There is a signed contract for $15m. If he wants that, fans should not ask him to quit at 50% pay.

    I'm not suggesting RF or anyone else is asking for him to quit, but I do know there are plenty of Knicks fans who asked for Ewing to quit. I didn't want to see such talk about Hakeem, a man who completely fulfilled his destiny and deserves the veteran contract that the owner gave him, so I spoke up.

    Now that people know that he can only receive 50% pay if we do a buy-out, and it still counts to the salary cap, I hope there is no one out there thinking about asking him to quit.
     
  4. Dr of Dunk

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    Yeah, after re-reading that, I knew that what I "assumed" you meant couldn't be right. You've got far too many intelligent posts on this board from what I've seen to have meant what I thought you meant...

    And yes, I agree with what you say... we've let Earl go, we've let Ryan go, I don't want the 3rd legend of the "Big 3" sports (with apologies to hockey fans) to leave our town. I'll be honest, I wanted Hakeem to step down under his own accord, but NEVER wanted him traded. That was before I learned about the salary cap and how much his stepping down probably wouldn't affect it. I wanted 2 things by Hakeem retiring:

    1) Hakeem to go out on a good note. Even if he stayed another year, I don't know what kind of championship chances we have, so why burn his knees out? He's got at least 30-40 years of life left to walk on those knees. Also, there were times he just didn't look as if he really cared that much out there anymore. A recent interview with him somewhat has changed my opinion on that.

    2) The Rockets need to move on and see what these newbies can do without Hakeem. I wanted them to see the first year of "life without Hakeem" and see who all stepped up. Up until this point it's been basically dump-it-to-the-post offense with Hakeem in there. I felt we were delaying the inevitable by 1 year for no reason. When Hakeem went down at least 2 people (Mobley was one, can't remember the other) made statements to the effect "we're running more". With the speed and quickness of this team, that's what they should be taking advantage. It remains to be seen how Hakeem will fit in when he gets back... hopefully we won't have a 95% post-centric plodding offense. We'll see...

    Again, sorry for the misinterpretation.

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  5. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

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    Hey DD,

    no offense taken. comes with the territory of posting to BBSs.

    Thanks for the kind words. I should've just stuck to the facts to make my point anyhow...the "disgusting" remark was lingering memories of Knicks fans yelling for Ewing to quit.

    if you ever want to disagree with me, don't hesitate. i'll know most people are here for fun and socializing. We ought to have a happy hour on this board where for one hour no one can take offense and everything goes. and clutch can delete the thread afterwards. hehe. One of these days I will set up my laptop next to a TV to participate in the game-time chat sessions. that should be fun. not as fun as going to the game or a bar...but, how else will I learn who likes to talk **** on this board without taking offense.
     
  6. rocketsfan34

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    This was over at nbatalk.com

    http://www.sacbee.com/sports/news/sports03_19991226.html

    Olajuwon's renewed faith

    Olajuwon, Houston's veteran center, was so enamored with the visual of he and Charles Barkley riding off into the sunset together after this season that he asked the team about buying out the final year of his contract, which expires after next season.
    Apparently though, contract deals could not be worked out, and Olajuwon and his advisers did not want it to appear that he was trying to abandon the team -- especially after Barkley's premature retirement. So Olajuwon has re-committed himself to giving it his all this year and next.

    "This is not the way I want to go out, not the way I want to end my career," said Olajuwon, who is recovering from hernia surgery and will not return to the struggling Rockets until mid-January. "It hurts too much to see us losing every night, and after all that I have been through in 16 years and helped to accomplish with this team, it is not the way I want people to remember the conclusion."

    Olajuwon, who has been plagued with chronic knee pain over the past several seasons, said a new training regimen had him feeling more pain-free than he had in years before the hernia, and he can't wait to get back on the court.

    He also took offense to rumors that his immersion into the Islam faith has distracted him from his basketball.

    "To say the difference is my religion is ignorance. In fact, according to Islam, it would be a criminal act for me to take the full amount of my salary and not give a full effort," said Olajuwon, who does plan to retire after next season. "If I care so much about Islam, about God, then that is exactly the thing that would not let me give up."



    Man when I thought I read we were going to buy out Dream's contract, I was thinking DUNCAN!!! Then I read the next sentence. ****!



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  7. mantronix

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    rocketsfan34, The way you wrote your post at the end put that (****!) does that you wanted the Rockets to buy out Hakeems contract and have Dream retire?
     
  8. rocketsfan34

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    Yes. I thought we actually could buy out his contract this year so he could retire with Chuck. Then with our now 15 mil of cap room we can aquire quite a few gems. Dream hardly plays with anymore fire these days, its just sad.

    But then heypartner brought to my attention that buying out a contract does nothing to cap space, so basically no point in doing it.
     
  9. tod the bod

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    The Rockets should politely ask Hakeem to retire because of injuries and then apply to the league for an exemption to the salary cap for his salary and Barkley's. Use this money to bring in some big time players who may become available around the trading deadline.

    If Hakeem really wants to help the Rockets, he should retire as a player. We can then hire Hakeem as a coach to work exclusively with Cato. Look almost every team in the league needs a center. In Cato, the Rockets have a center with lots of potential. A lot of people have suggested that we should keep Hakeem around so that he can teach the younger players. Well this would be the way to keep Hakeem around without him handcuffing the team for this season and the next with his astronomical salary.
     
  10. Dr of Dunk

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    I don't believe Hakeem will be one of the types to hang around the organization in a coaching capacity that much after retirement. He has (at least I think he still does) his own import/export business (no, it's not Vandolay Industries... haha... I think it's Bakkarat something or other). He may want to get away from basketball for a little while at least.

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