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Article: Give Morey credit -- he’s trying to fix past mistakes when many GMs wouldn’t

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ballclub, Jul 17, 2012.

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  1. ballclub

    ballclub Member

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    Good piece on YaoMingMania.

    I'm not a huge Morey fan, but he's doing something that is very unusual among many GMs: admitting past mistakes, and working his arse off to fix it, even if he may be wrong again.
     
    #1 ballclub, Jul 17, 2012
  2. ballclub

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    The link doesn't display well (you have to hover over "Good piece" for the link). Sorry about that.
     
    #2 ballclub, Jul 17, 2012
  3. rocketseagles07

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    This I agree with. I'm not in the "morey is a genius camp" but I do like what he's doing. He views success as winning ships and I think he knows trying to develop mediocre young talent every year and gathering assets isn't the route to take. Everyone talking about rebuilding the OKC way is delusional. Presti had to get ALL 3 of those top 5 picks right that he was LUCKY enough to acquire. Rebuilding with youth and picks isn't always a guaranteed recipe for success....
     
    #3 rocketseagles07, Jul 17, 2012
  4. conquistador#11

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    YMM? I feel like I've hopped into a delorean and the year is 2007
     
    #4 conquistador#11, Jul 17, 2012
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    Also fair bit of luck that all three guys panned out to be star players. Doesn't usually happen.
     
    #5 OremLK, Jul 17, 2012
  6. cardpire

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    where in there exactly does he admit his past mistakes?
     
    #6 cardpire, Jul 17, 2012
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    The YouMingMania guys should just start a Jeremy Lin sister site and get it over with already.

    O2
     
    #7 Oski2005, Jul 17, 2012
  8. JayZ750

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    While I agree rebuilding exactly the OKC way isnt a given, I think this thought overvalues luck and undervalues competency. Sam Presti isn't just lucky or even predominantly lucky. He is lucky, but also smart and shrewd.

    In either case I respect DM immensely but will judge him, as history will, on the ultimate outcome.
     
    #8 JayZ750, Jul 17, 2012
  9. bloop

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    did you miss the part where he waives Lin then pays to get him back at the earliest possible opportunity?
     
    #9 bloop, Jul 17, 2012
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    "Doesn't usually"? The other times were________? Say, the last 20 years. Meh to the 'OKC Model', lightening they were able to bottle.
     
    #10 xiki, Jul 17, 2012
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    Thats not a mistake. Lin was behind Lowry and Dragic. You wouldnt know who the guy was if he didnt get cut and go Somewhere and get playing time.
     
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  12. cardpire

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    nope. saw that part. was a really interesting part.

    now can you answer the question and show me where exactly he admits his past mistakes? thanks.
     
    #12 cardpire, Jul 17, 2012
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    On BSPN's website there is an insiders article about cap situation with Daryl Morey's pic. Can anyone post them in here?
     
    #13 SkeptiK21, Jul 17, 2012
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    Never mind found it on NBA DISH forum
     
    #14 SkeptiK21, Jul 17, 2012
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    Can you posg a link plz?
     
    #15 Kruze10, Jul 17, 2012
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    John visits Clutchfans often I see.
     
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  17. ballclub

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    It says in there that Morey tweeted it on Feb. 9th (which was reported by many other sites at the time):

    "We should have kept [Jeremy Lin]. Did not know he was this good."​
     
    #17 ballclub, Jul 17, 2012
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    you conspicuously left out the final sentence at the end, where he says that nobody in the world could possibly have known he was good, thereby absolving himself of any blame, and not really admitting it was a mistake at all.

    either way, signing lin to a bloated contract hardly qualifies as "trying to fix past mistakes". in the process, he got rid of 2 pg's who are probably better than lin to get him.
     
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    #19 SkeptiK21, Jul 17, 2012
  20. ballclub

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    You should be a politician. First, you couldn't read good enough to see the Tweet, and need this forum to help you not only see that, but can't even discern that anyone who is pursuing Lin so hard (after cutting him) is clearly indicating he made a mistake, or he wouldn't have cut him! Besides, in his Tweet, he clearly he admits he makes a mistake by saying "we should have kept him," but you try to give him an "out" by saying he wasn't admitting the mistake with the "misleading" statement.

    You clearly have some agenda against Lin by coming up with such flawed logic, and also for saying the contract is "bloated." I will trust Morey and his staff's research department more than what your fan's gut (yours) is telling you. $8m average per year isn't too far off for a PG with Lin's stats, and any team in the league with cap space who needs a PG would consider it. The Knicks don't want to pay it because they have signed too many high priced players, and the CBA rules really penalize them in the 3rd year, unlike what the Rockets have to endure.

    And he didn't "get rid" of Dragic. Dragic declined a pretty good offer to move on. They used Lowry to get a lottery pick from Toronto to parlay in a trade for a star (TBD). Plus, Lowry was going to continue to be a head case for McHale, saying they didn't get along. Rather than deal with that drama next year, they sent a clear signal to future players that if you're going to create a distraction with the coach, you're gone. Finally, most experts agree Lowry was good, but not great enough to lead them to a championship, and that Lin's upside is higher than Lowry's.
     
    #20 ballclub, Jul 17, 2012
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