Your post don't make "sence". What makes you think Brooks will be a better NBA player then TB? look at this dude stats. http://www.nba.com/playerfile/terrell_brandon/index.html Do you really think Brooks can top that? There's a reason why TB was taken at #11. I don't know if you've watch basketball that long, but was TB considered a reach when he was taken there? Aaron Brooks was a reach, just at #26.
Maurice Taylor Over his career of 8 years, Maurice Taylor averaged 25 minutes per game and 4.6 rebounds. Darrell Arthur had 3 rebounds in 26 minutes. He needs to focus a bit to get to the Mo Taylor level of rebounding intensity.
1) It's summer league. JL3 and clone 2.0 AB had monster summer stats also. Don't put too much stock in summer league as an indicator of NBA success. Kelvin Cato had one monster game preseaon, and look at him now... 2) at #27 and #28, I don't think one will have a more productive rookie season over the other. Arthur would have to be Brandon Rush or Carl Landry material to crack our rotation this year, so this year's performance is irrelevant. 3) And the most important aspect. In the very small off chance that Arthur is that much better than Greene, and in the very small off chance that Arthur will be significantly better than Greene 3-4 years from now, we got their 2nd rounder next year. They subtracted young 3 point sharpshooter Mike Miller and replaced him with a broken down 4 point brickshooter Antoine Walker. That 2nd rounder is 31-33. But much more likely, 95% chance they will have similar levels of success in the NBA. So, basically, we trade 6 for half a dozen, except we get another half dozen next year. (and we save 32k over 4 years for paying Greene a lower rookie wage). (Arthur will get more playing time, so he'll progress faster, so no comparing Arthur and Greene 3 years from now please. It's a flawed comparison)
I like Aaron Brooks, but Terrell Brandon was a all star we can only dream Aaron turns out that good. Greene is more of a small forward with more range and handles than Arthur. I'm very happy with Greene when I thought we had Arthur I was pissed.
Can you let Greene play before you start comparing.. And anyways if Arthur is better who cares... We got Dorsey also.. plus more goodies.
All you have to do is look at the boxscore and you can tell, that the Hornets didn't play a lick of defense and points were easy to come by. Seriously only 3 (out of 9) players that played in the game for Memphis didn't shoot .500 or better.......everybody else scored easily, including Arthur.
If you want to base it off 1 boxscore of one guy and compare him to a guy that hasn't played a game in the summer league yet... Greene > Joe Alexander.
I agree you can't tell much from just summer league games. But I do recall one of the knocks on Arthur being that his rebounding numbers were subpar at KU. Now he's got another game under his belt, and it seems his rebounding is improving. He got 1 more rebound in 2 less minutes. 4rb-24m > 3rb-26m. And his fouling dropped from 9 to 8. 'Course that could be the 2 less minutes. Didn't shoot well though. His stats: 24:11mn 3-11fg 4-4ft 4rb 8pf 3to 1blk 10pts. It's always hard to tell about a player when he's on such a balanced team as Kansas was. He always seemed like an opportunistic player to me, like Luis is for us. He's got a nice turnaround jumper though. We'll see how he fares handling pf's in the league that have 20-50 pounds on him.(I've seen him listed as low as 215) He's definately going to have to bulk up. Just like everyone posts Rudy Gay's numbers against Shane's I'm sure this will happen. I'll follow their stats/careers against each other too. Also waiting for "Big Baby" to start getting more pt as he gets older to compare with Landry.
I think when both their careers are over i say yes. Per minute Brooks had a better rookie season then Terrell. Just because he went 26 dont mean nothing. Gilbert Arenas fell into the 2nd round. There was a reason why we drafted a point guard when there was plenty on the market as well. Brooks is one of the all time greats at Oregon. I think he will have another strong summer league.
Maybe, maybe not, but I'll take Arthur's Grizzlies' 2nd round pick next year to find out. Oh yeah, and throw in Dorsey if you don't mind... thanks!
Oh yeah, great idea to compare the two players' first ever summer league stats, since you know, we drafted Greene to bring immediate results and all.
Yea, I'm sure college success translate well over to the NBA. I mean whoever heard of a flop that was a beast in college? Going #26 mean potential to be back-up, going #11 potential to be impact starter. He was one of the top player from last year SL, right?(MVP?) How well did that translate over when the real NBA games started?
In this case, we have to compare Arthur vs (Greene plus Dorsey and 2009 top 2nd round pick). If Portland took Douglas-Roberts instead of Dorsey, Arthur-Greene trade would not have happen.
Arthur is a bit more polished than greene, but potentially greene should get the edge. besides, arthur's an undersized pf, at least dorsey's 30 lb stronger than arthur and has more of the intimidation factor, and can play a lil center.
College career and early pro career Terrell Brandon is much better than Aaron Brooks. Brandon was closer to Gary Payton in college, than Brooks being to Brandon. Brooks certainly has good small guard attributes like Brandon but Brandon was more accomplished Brandon from Day 1 was the Sam Cassell-like backup behind All Star Mark Price. Brooks made you GLAD the Rockets still had Rafer at the point.
What?? We picked Dorsey through Portland. The trade was sorted out with Portland (Batum for Arthur + 2nd) and then sorted out with Memphis (Arthur for Greene + 2nd) and THEN the 2nd round came about.
If we're comparing stats, we could turn to their college careers? Greene's 17 and 7 >>> Arthurs 12 and 6 Seriously, what is the fascination with Arthur?? The guy is a soft PF who can't rebound, who likes to shoot from 15' but can't shoot beyond that range. Can put the ball on the floor against other PF's, but is 0% chance of making it as a SF in the NBA (waaay too slow, and no range). It's spelt B-U-S-T. I don't even care if Greene totally sux as well - at least we got a future 2nd out of the deal, so even IF Greene is also a bust, at least we're walking away with something!
I have a feeling both Greene and Arthur will be out of the league in 5 years, moreso with Greene. Arthur can still make a living in the paint, but Greene has to turn his game into a carreer in the NBA. Kinda like Eddie Griffin w/o the drama! Hopefully I'm wrong.
