Hate to interrupt another it's-all-about-tinman thread (yawn), but... My long-simmering take on the Artest trade goes like this: 1. Basic on-court basketball sense: check 2. Basic economic sense: check 3. Clears the "balls" threshold that so many organizations fail: check And many of you have said the same thing, but here's where I sympathize with the few of you who say OH NOES!!1! We've all been on outings with a bunch of our best buddies. Let's say it's camping, or even a weekend on the Bolivar peninsula in winter, with a couple of nights of big camp fires and beer and shooting fireworks into the surf. Whatever. It could be humble, but you look around and say "this is an absolute blast. I am very happy right now." So that's the 22-game win streak; that's the kind of trust and comraderie the team built up this year. Then, you and your buddies plan a similar trip for the next winter. You get kind of excited about it, in its modest way. And then, a friend of a friend invites this guy Ron, the loudest, most obnoxious dude you know. He's going to be lighting his farts and shooting the bottle rockets into the campfire. He's going to wander off into the Bay and make people worry that he's drowned. The friend of a friend reassures you "no, no, dude! Ron is the BIGGEST party animal. This trip is going to be OFF the HOOK! He will probably get some Texas City hookers (and you think to yourself 50 year old trannies) and, like, he'll bring some kind of homemade PCP and we'll like smoke it and nearly die and it's going to be great!" So, suddenly, the stakes are raised, you know it will be a more epic trip, but you aren't excited anymore, and you're even kind of dreading it. I just bet that's the way a lot of the actual players feel. Can you imagine traveling and playing 82 games with a guy as intense and random as Ron? We fans can absolutely love it, because he'll bust his tail and make us (probably) better on the court, but part of me does feel for the actual players who built that great vibe last year. Call me crazy, but that's my analogy.
fun read, as usual, B-Bob. But I think you are going too far feeling sorry for inconveniencing multimillionaire's by trading for Artest. Doesn't appear Rodman hurt Jordan and Pippen much. My analogy to your analogy is imagine being a very serious and good actor who wants to win an Oscar some day...but hasn't made it passed the first round of auditions for Oscar quality movies. You're a millionaire, but it's more than just the money to you. Then finally you get a great role and they pick a star leading lady to play opposite you, but she's a real b**** on the set, and you'll have to cater to her psychotic tendencies for the 6mos that it takes to finish the movie. sorry, but I'm not feeling sorry for you.
Please? Have I told you about my colostomy bag leak? Yeah, I hear your analogy. Since this is a nicely compensated profession, your analogy is better than mine. Staying within your analogy, if you are the actor who's never quite gotten in the Oscar conversation, you could still be afraid you're walking onto the set of Apocalypse Now with Sheen. Or one of hundreds that weren't so lucky, that had monumental great-cast-crap-movie sydrome. I am still bullish on this trade, and I don't really feel too sorry for our millionaire players of course. I just get nervous each time I see one of these Artest interviews. On the one hand, I really like him, and on the other hand, he does not seem okay to me. Sorry Ron, if you're reading, but the word MANIC keeps coming to mind. (fingers cross, buth niw can'tj type so guosd}.
I feel like that as well. Still - worth the risk. And yes, as another oldtimer chiming in - I like tinman a lot, but this constant talking about yourself as the savior of all that's holy, tinman, is getting boring.
besides Ron Artest, its really boring now. And I did make a couple Ron Ron threads, but its gets derailed cause some fool thinks I have some agenda against Yao. Which is completely false cause my inclusion of old school rap music and references to the geto boys has nothing to do with Yao. so know how these offseasons go, as soon as the regular season starts, we'll have more to talk about.
fwiw, I understood your meaning with those pics.. made me LOL cause I bought it when it was new. (actually it was the tape first, then cd). I met bushwick a few times when I was throwing parties in houston. I had to kick him out of the club once because he wasn't mc'ing and was a drunk little b*stard. back OT.
your post just made my day...thank u very much now, back on topic... YAO MING SOLDIER BABY!!! ROX D KOBE BABY!!!
YES! I've been waiting for Walter Berry to come out of retirement; this time, he's really gonna show us what all the hype was about! And at Shooting Guard! Whoa.
ROX D KOBE BABY!!! cool pic but I think it makes the Kobe look as if he is so good that we need 4 players to hold him.
Am I the only one worried that Ron Artest talks about himself in the third person every other sentence? This guy worries me. Is all that talent worth the huge potential problem he could cause on the team?
Gilbert in his latest blog, speaking on the artest trade- Ron Artest -- "He forced the trade. He wanted out of there and they delivered. I think it’s a good trade for Houston. Someone is going to have to control him in the locker room, but other than that, he plays hard and he plays to win, so I think that was a good move to pick him up." here is the link, he also speaks about other teams and their player movements too. http://my.nba.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5800009898
My bad forgot a part "Right now Yao is the franchise player over there and he was looking out for the best interests of the team, and as a new player coming in, I guess Artest was defending himself and saying that’s what he had to do at the time. He could have said that’s he’s a different player now and he’s past that and let’s go out and play some basketball – those would have been the better words – but, hey. "
Well considering that Kobe is the "best basketball player in the world" (although I think LeBron might have taken that title with the Olympics and all), if you photoshop any other player in, it'll make the Rockets look bad that they have to quadruple team any given person.
