Artest suspension (UPDATE: Artest out for the season)

That does make sense, especially since <Wallace Brother> was sitting/standing directly behind the two kids - exactly where Jones was. I'd need to look at the tape again - didn't see them at first, but wasn't looking for them.

Evan

 

You hit the nail on the head. It still bothers me how people find justification for those players actions especially Jermaine O'neal's.

 

That might explain why those two kids were crying.

Let us know what you see.

BTW ...that guy still isn't justified for pounding Jones on the back of the head. If he would have just pushed Jones off of those kids (if thats what happend), I think we might have been cool with it.

 

I still don't get how people still characterize Artest and Jackson's going into the stand as "self defense." Someone 2/3 your size throws a plastic cup at you; you punch him in the face. That's self defense?

BTW, I heard in the radio this morning interviewing the fan who got hit by Artest when he first got to the stand. He said he wasn't the one who threw the cup. Artest had no way of knowing who threw the cup. He just got up there and randomly punch someone. (MadMax at least got to the fan who actually did the offending.) The guy Jackson punch was the first guy's friend. They were all screaming "No, no, it wasn't me!" There was just no excuse for them to randomly hit people.

As for punching the two fans on the court. Again, if your sole purpose is to stop the threat, you just tackle them down, like what the security people were doing. Tackling and punching are two very different actions. Punching is intended to hurt someone. Tackling is intended to stop someone. There was no reason for ONeal to punch that guy even if he was a threat. And from what I see, neither of those two guys on the court were in fighting posture. The first fat guy on the court Artest decked had his arms spread to the side. If you are preparing to fight, you put your arms up to protect your chest and your face. He was probably just talking trash.

 

Finally, someone who gets the gist of this whole mess. God, these guys are nothing but thugs. Artest should have been banned from basketball.

IF that would have happened I promise you that he would have ended up in jail or in a graveyard.

Artest can walk away from a huge Ben Wallace, who would have kick his a$%, but a dangerous water bottle or beer cup sends him over the top, right. It's simple, Artest knew he couldn't beat up Wallace but knew he could pummel most fans in the stands. A disgrace.

 

Nice cliches there buddy. I'm sure every person from from poor areas are hardened criminals.

"Appreciation" played no role in the incident. Team pride and high levels of stress are much bigger factors. People fight; it happens in all sports. Unfortunately some idiot fans turned it into a bigger deal than it should have been. Neither Artest nor his teammates would've had any reason to retaliate, were it not for "the Mexican guy," as you so eloquently described him in another thread.

As for Ron Artest's character, he's a completely different person off the court. He reads to kids, he gives to charity, he wanted time away from basketball to spend with his family, for chrissakes. Hardly a thug if you ask me.

 

Artest is bigger than Wallace.

 

3 Ben Wallace F-C 6-9 240

91 Ron Artest F 6-7 246

Wallace is bigger and in my opinion a more chiseled specimen than Artest.

 

dont bother arguing with chicken...he will somehow turn what you say into a racial attack and tell you that you need more minority friends

 

So basically, what you have here, is that the Bad Boys sealed up the Eastern conference championship with a mee lee. Somethings never change.

 

Then why did he back off when he was threatened by Wallace? I guess a beverage is a serious threat when you compare the two incidents. Bottom line is that he wasn't man enough to step up to the real threat which would be totally justified in that case.

 

its official...chicken must be a troll who has never seen an NBA game

 

if you're defending any party in all of this...fan or player...then you're sorely misguided.

 

no question...when they filter out the fans who threw stuff etc...they should have their season tix taken away (if they have them) and banned from sporting event for a year

 

That would actually be funny since I am a minority, can you be racist against yourself?

 

They should be prosecuted too.

But the players were at the "office" and representing a business.

They are getting punished by the business, not the law.

Although they should be punished by the law as well.

DD

 

i agree. The players acted stupid, and the fans also, but i think it is unfair that the pacers got in major problems because of this, and the pistons got nothing. Í really want to know in what way stern is gonna punish the Pistons, because they are responsible for their fans.

When do the pistons play in Indiana? I wonder how the fans of the pacers will react then, that game will be so emotional. Because the fans of the pistons will blame the pacers for this,they will think the pacers ruined their season.i expect a very tough game for the pistons.

 

I agree that Artest got what he deserved, but what about Ben...I agree somewhat that you can't take ignore Artest's history, but still, it seems a little much..

 

People......

What are you looking at?????

Ben Wallace did NOT ATTACK A FAN !!!

These are the SAME fans who foot the bill for the players and the entire NBA......

Do you guys understand degrees of punishment?

Wallace should have been kicked for 1 or 2 games max...he got 6 because it escalated.

O'neal, Jackson, and Artest should be in jail for assault.

There are levels of decorum in society, and assaulting someone is not allowed, even IF THEY THROW A BEER on you.

DD

 

I agree....I actually thikn that Wallace's punishment was 6 games, as opposed to 1 or 2, because of what heppened...but he didn't do anything other than hit artest which carries a 2 game suspension.