Though when exactly was Obama informed of the situation? Was it as he was taking the stage, was it in the car 10 minutes earlier? If you are defending Bush keep in mind he could've gotten up excused himself and stepped out. I don't consider either GW Bush or Obama insensitive and it just shows how sad partisanship is to do so but I do find it very hypocritical that those who upheld GW Bush are now decrying Obama's insensitivity. You can't predict situations like this and they are fluid. I think for either President to react differently could've caused a different reactions such as panic. Both handled it about as well as they could.
You are really intent on smearing your **** all over this tragedy aren't you? What is the relevance of that little factoid?
If an American soldier before battle put on a cross and recited the Lord's prayer before he went into battle would you say religion contributed to his actions? We don't know fully yet what motivated this guy do what he did. IN his own twisted mind he might've had some plan that made sense to him and only engaged in the religious stuff to strengthen his will to carry it out.
Best post of the "debate" in the thread, IMHO. It always rankled me that people could seriously focus attention on the pres. reading "my pet goat" or whatever when the scary and high-impact problem was that his most radical advisors would suddenly feel a carte blanche coming on. I do think it's sad to compare the magnitudes of 9/11 and 11/05, literally and figuratively.
If you wouldn't quote him, those more efficient and sensible among us wouldn't even have to view basso's e-xcrement.
Do you not see any distinction whatsoever between that and what this guy did? How about this...if a guy did the very same thing he did yesterday somewhere in the Middle East, would you hesitate to call it terrorism or question its source?
That said then we don't know what he was told about the situation exactly. A gunman shot up an office today in Orlando does that mean that Obama should cancel his schedule? For that matter I still find your criticism of Obama very hypocritical given Gw Bush's behavior in a crisis. Leaving aside 9/11 consider that GW Bush didn't even cancel his vacation when Katrina was bearing down on NOLA even though he had been told days before that NOLA could be wiped out.
No it doesn't. If I gave a random "shout out" in this thread the pile-on would already be 2 pages long.
please. the events in orlando (which are still unfolding) are certainly tragic, but if you can't see that an attack on a US military base, on men preparing to go into battle to defend their country, should provoke a different reaction from those troops Commander in chief, then you're being willfully obtuse.
and that means what? you're the one that's ascribing some sinister motive to what is nothing more than a factual statement. no one, other than you, muck, and sam, are interpreting the info.
Do you ever take any ****ing responsiblity for thing you do? The "folks at gawker" forced you to copy, paste, and post that here. Again, what was your purpose in bringing it to our attention?
I'm just saying that I don't know all the facts and am hesitant to jump to conclusions on this. It depends on how he did it. If it happened on a US military base in Iraq or Afghanistan I would consider an act of war, although one carried out in a terrorist manner, than just straight up terrorism. I posted an article earlier stating why we should question considering that the FBI can't clearly ascertain that this was the same person who made the blog posting. In that case yes we should question.
Is trolling as a 50 year old father as satisfying for you as it is for us 20 or 30 year old douchemonkeys? I always though having kids was supposed to change you blah blah blah. I mean I do it as an escape from boredom and ennui of routine. For example, I took about a week off from the BBS cause I was in Argentina for about 6 days on vacation. So no need to stave off stultification by posting. What are you trying to escape from? And is it still as much fun? I want to know how long my trollery will last. It's 6 years and counting.
Consider though if the president had come out and said "Holy crap Fort Hood has been attacked!" that would've caused a totally different reaction that rightfully should be criticized. Obama is in a difficult place in regard to how he reacts to an unfolding crisis. Neither you nor I are the President and yes that doesn't mean we can't criticize the office holder but at the same time we should consider what other factors they are dealing with.
To the wingnuts who are calling this a terrorist attack: Why aren't you rallying behing our president?
