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Army Base Shooting 12 dead 30 injured

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SunsRocketsfan, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. OddsOn

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    CNN and MSNBC are spinning this like the shooter was the victim.....talk about nauseating. :eek:

    LOL....and using the word "alleged" like all the witnesses who saw him doing the act are somehow mistaken with what they think they saw.

    Who needs Pravda when you have PC... :rolleyes:
     
  2. basso

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    about that shout out...

    it wasn't a Congressional Medal of Honor, or even an Imperial Legion of Merit:

    [rquoter]Crow's name is not included on the Society's Medal of Honor recipient list. He was, however, awarded the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor, in August.

    Obama, often described as "cerebral" by the mainstream media, should know the difference between the Medal of Honor and the Medal of Freedom, especially since he personally awarded the latter to Crow...[/rquoter]

    as the linked article note, had Bush said the same thing...
     
  3. bigtexxx

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    Seriously. Those news channels are quite biased.

    ...and Obama giving a "shout out" before addressing the situation....what a failure that guy is. Leadership? Fail.
     
  4. MrRoboto

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    What about the Governor of California?? Why didn't he go in and take 'em out?
     
  5. Ari

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    That is what I meant to say, thanks for restating it for me. That is what I meant by saying religion is often used as a vehicle for our actions, but the actions themselves are not always inspired by religion. I am not saying religion has no role, because it does, it is an ideology.
     
  6. Faos

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    Before I answer you, I'd like to give a shout out to Chase Budinger, my early candidate for Rookie of the Year.

    The analogy was simply comparing how presidents react during a major crisis. You knew that, but that wouldn't allow you to fire off one of your self-fellating comebacks.

    Certainly the two aren't comparable in their severity, but both were of national significance. Obama has proven once again he's not the smooth operator he portrayed during the campaign season. Choosing Biden was a wise choice. It's like the good looking gal that hangs around an ugly chick to make herself look better. How's that analogy?
     
  7. Ari

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    That is silly, if you are Christian as you claim then how can you not condemn Islam and call yourself a Christian? :confused: Being a Christian means that you believe all other faiths and its followers are, at best, misguided and at worst infidels worth blowing up to bit. Religions are glorified members-only clubs.
     
  8. giddyup

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    Can you give us chapter/verse on that? :confused:
     
  9. right1

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    That is silly, if you are Ari as you claim then how can you not condemn Islam and call yourself Ari? :confused: Being Ari means that you believe all other faiths and its followers are, at best, misguided and at worst infidels worth blowing up to bit. Being Ari is a glorified members-only club.

    Sounds pretty stupid doesn't it?
     
  11. LosPollosHermanos

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    Guys..


    Analyze the situation.

    He has been a psychiatrist there for many years and was quite


    vocal about his hate for the wars. People also hint at how he was

    mentally unstable.

    It was when he was about to be deployed, that he engaged in this slaughter.

    One could argue, that Islam gives him a more violoent predisposition, but it does not coincide with the stimulus, him getting deployed. I don't see how he was working there for so long, and decided that he needed to kill for his religon just "Coincidentally" around the same time he was about to be deployed.

    People are to quick to see Islam/Death and think terrorism. That is understandable, but think about all the people you are alienating by making that sort of assumption, you are creating a rift, probably what the terrorists want anyways.
     
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    It's because he is muslim. He even shows loyalty to Palestine, by listing his nationality as Palestine, when he is Jordanian.

    He didn't want to be deployed, because he supports Palestine and their cause. It's not like he was a frontline soldier, if he was deployed. He would have been a doctor over there, also.
     
  13. KingCheetah

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    I wonder if this guy was a Manchurian Candidate secretly signaled by Obama ?
     
  14. B-Bob

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    More nauseating coverage from CNN.

    Fort Hood, Texas (CNN) -- The police officer who ended the Fort Hood massacre by shooting the suspect is known as the enforcer on her street, a "tough woman" who patrolled her neighborhood and once stopped burglars at her house. "If you come in, I'm going to shoot," Kimberly Munley told the would-be intruders last year.

    It was Munley who arrived quickly Thursday at the scene of the worst massacre at an Army base in U.S. history, where 13 people were killed. She confronted the alleged gunman, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, and shot him four times. Munley was wounded in the exchange.

    That's just like her, friends and family say. "I just felt more protected knowing she was on my street," neighbor Erin Houston said.

    Munley, the mother of a 3-year-old girl, lives on a street where a lot of homes are vacant because so many residents are deployed at war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    "We sleep a lot safer knowing she's on the block," said Sgt. William Barbrow, another neighbor.

    When Bryan Munley heard that his sister-in-law thwarted the alleged gunman in a shootout, he wasn't surprised. "There's nothing that stands in her way. It completely makes sense that she did what she did," he said from Downingtown, Pennsylvania. "It was amazing. Without her, there would have been a lot more people killed."

    He added, "She is definitely a tough woman." Munley, 34, is being treated for her wounds. Her father, former Carolina Beach, North Carolina, Mayor Dennis Barbour, said his daughter is doing well.

    "Her efforts were superb," said Col. Steven Braverman, the base hospital commander. Lt. Gen. Bob Cone, Fort Hood's commanding general, described Munley as a "trained, active first responder" who acted quickly after she "just happened to encounter the gunman."

    "Really a pretty amazing and aggressive performance by this police officer," he said.

    Cone said Munley and her partner responded "very quickly" to the scene -- reportedly in about three minutes.
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    Okay, glad to learn a little bit about her, but seriously, what crappy reporting. I wish they could talk to her and find out what she actually did. Great story, and she probably saved a lot of lives. The part I did not quote talks about a Facebook fan page for her -- seriously, as if that is journalism.

    My prob with CNN is not bias (e.g. they were big-time champions of the war in iraq II, if you'll recall: "American's New War!") but just crappiness.
     
  15. Ari

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    Actually he is neither Palestinian or Jordanian, the only nationality he has is American, he was born and raised here. He just sympathized too much with the Palestinians I guess because his daddy and mommy are Palestinians. The guy was struggling with his identity.
     
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    Until I see his birth certificate, I'll put him in the same boat as Obama, a foreigner. ;) :)


    GoOoOoO Birthers!
     
  17. Ari

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    what..the..heck?! :confused: Are you r****ded or something? LOL! Ok, maybe just drunk

    Nice job taking what I said out of context :rolleyes: What I said was a GENERAL statement on all religions and how they are interpreted, it is about the two extremes within any religion: on the one hand accepting that there are philosophical differences and that you are on the right path (meaning all others are on the wrong path), AND on the other hand having a militant view that champions domination of all those non-believers who have strayed from the right path (your path) . At a minimum, being a member of a particular religion means that everyone else is an "other", but it does not mean the "other" has to be killed or oppressed, most religious folks are tolerant enough to live and let live. But at a MINIMUM, all religions are exclusionary in nature. It is not a critique of Christianity or any other religion, it is a general fact. There is a community of believers, which creates a de facto community of non-believers.
     
  18. SamFisher

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    And your analogy of major crises necessarily depends on a weak attempt to equate this incident with September 11 - something that anybody can see is 1) wrong, and 2) embarrassing for you.

    Accordingly no further explanation is needed.

    Go back to the Hangout.
     
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  19. Shroopy2

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    As I'm typing here I'm talking to my sister, who is driving on the way to being stationed in Fort Hood. She should have been there the day before the shooting even :confused: but they thankfully granted her extra time to pack and move...

    She still has possible Afghanistan and Korea deployments ahead to look forward to, so she literally still has more bullets to dodge.
     
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