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Armed security guard killed by police officer responding to shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. Rocket River

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    Why do the Right ignore the White Nationalist Racist and the White Mass Murderers?

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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    There are ways to reduce gang participation and gang violence. It has to do with education, after-school programs, job training, eradicating the discrimination that currently exists in those areas and especially the justice system today. The community efforts in addressing those needs seem to exist in black communities. They exist in the voting demographics surveys. Do you have any proof that black communities aren't worried about those issues? I can point to numerous programs that all address those issues and are present and a focus of black communities.

    The Left doesn't ignore black on black crime. The Left are the ones advocating for the actual programs and improvements I mentioned above that will help to reduce black on black crime.

    Finally, it is possible and even related to reducing discrimination between law enforcement and black citizens to focus on the disproportionate use of force against minorities and African-Americans in particular.

    What it seems like is that you are ignoring these efforts by black communities and left-leaning politicians to address the problems. Instead, you keep claiming that it isn't a focus and nothing is being done or attempting to be done.
     
  3. Senator

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    The homicide rates outside of gangs are also disproportionately high. The gang issue is the biggest problem, but not the only one when it comes to violent crime.

    Chicago in particular is a city where there are over 100,000 gang members and ... 12,000 police. That tips the scales and given the crime stats puts cops "on the edge" when around AA males.

    So there is an air of preidctability when articles like this are posted but nothing is said about black on black crime, the largest killer of african americans today.

    You have to remove all doubt by minimizing violence and drug use. As long as the rates go down because ... "well, there's a past of colonialization so it's not in our hands", that mentality will continue the trend. And as the stats show, the trend has only gotten worse. You, as an individual, have to stand up and stop demonizing the police. Nothing good will come of it, whether it's reforms or less discrimination, period.

    The black community may be concerned, but the first 3 things you mentioned - education, after school programs and job training only do so much without the right framework to take these to the next level. That involves opportunity, trust and like you stated... lack of discrimination. At a core level, it is all about culture and has nothign to do with the amendment. That is how the white people (and asian) in power delegate opportunity.

    You need to try harder and think higher. Baby steps aren't good enough - look around. You have the blueprint to reduce that discrimination from your end , the question is if you want to use it.
     
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    what do you propose the Right do then? Pay more attention to the white nationalist racists and murders? Sounds like you're suggesting the Rights are condoning these criminals or something.
     
  6. Senator

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    He just wants to sit on his butt and complain. The right and white nationalism have nothing to do with one another. 15 people showed up at the last white nationalist march in South Carolina.

    Look at the stats for gang related murders. Look at the awards the left gives to rappers talking about murder, trap house etc and the millions they make from it.

    When it comes to school shootings, blacks make up the largest percentage of murderers, not angry white kids.

    Toxic male ideals are a problem, including entitlement, but it's not restricted to one race. An angry idiot will always find an excuse and media will only write what sells. However , as a community, the left ignores black on black crime because many feel it's not their fault they turn to violence. Or would rather demonize police who deal with it every day because it's easier.
     
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    And Senator acts like the Left are condoning these criminals.

    Trump actually did condone white nationalists with the fine people on both sides comment.
     
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    The things I've mentioned have been shown to be effective. Talking about slavery, colonization, and peoples that have been conquered isn't saying it's out of anyone's hands. Those are just facts. I'm talking about actual facts. So the fact that we know those facts it would be best to address ways to overcome those challenges. That is different than saying it is beyond our control.
     

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