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Armed guard stops school shooting...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Realjad, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I guess it would help put more people back to work, but really, it's such a waste of human capital. "Okay, your job is to sit here for the next few years with a gun in a holster. Probably you will never have to do anything at all, but that's your job. Just ... sit here."
     
  2. Harrisment

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    I fully support the right to have a gun for home protection, so I'm not sure what bias you're referring to. That however does not exclude me from feeling that we need to make it more difficult for people to get access to guns, and background checks across the board. And the reason I laugh at you is because you make an argument that any child could see through.

    The purpose of guns is what?
    The purpose of a car is what?
    The purpose of a phone is what?

    Still failing to see it?
     
  3. Refman

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    If somebody steals my car and kills somebody in a high speed chase, I am not liable. Similarly, I am not liable if somebody steals my gun and commits a murder with it. This is very different for cars if my minor child is the perpetrator. I could live with a similar provision for guns.
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    Well, they could function as normal cops in schools do and they could have a rotating schedule so one cop wouldn't have to stay in an elementary school all year. Intermediate and up there is enough going on to keep a cop fairly busy -- I wouldn't expect there just to be a guard sitting by the front door all day.
     
  5. CometsWin

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    Murder isn't an accident.
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    Target Practice.

    And this guy agrees.

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  7. Harrisment

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    Cool, if that's your stance then it sounds like you support the ban of any lethal ammunition, as guns are manufactured for target practice. That's pretty extreme, good luck fighting the fight.
     
  8. giddyup

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    The purpose of a gun is what? That may be where you are getting off-track.

    I get that you are saying that the intention is different but I'm saying that the result is too similar.

    The usual stats for death by gun in the US is about 10,000. Venturing a guess here but I would say that half of those are gang-related crime-on-crime kinds of death. I can' find any actual figure though but it's a reasonable guess. What would you say, but you can't say none because that would be unrealistic.

    Phone-related traffic deaths are about 4,000 (with a strong upward trend I would bet as more and more smart phones flood the market and younger and younger people have them).

    Is 5,000 that much worse than 4,000?

    If we totally got rid of guns and mobile phones, 9,000 more innocent people would be alive at the end of every year.
     
  9. giddyup

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    Not all gun deaths are murder, either. Lots of the clamor is about children being killed accidentally because their parents flunked a gun safety course.
     

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