I think we have learned from the Chandler Parsons situation that Morey doesn't really care about role players that are "recruiters" He knows CP3 is here to run with Harden and try and win a ship not run with Ariza and reminisce on the New Orleans days.
parsons was a FA, Ariza is not. not the same situation Morey is not going to overpay especially when there's leverage. that should be clear to anyone who follows this team
Having role players that stars like always help and definitely can help with any locker room issues throughout the season. Besides, Ariza is a phenomenal role player.
Keeping Ariza is what puts us over the top as a championship contender. Having 4 players who can switch and defend on everything, and give each other breaks is imperative when you're facing a team like Golden State. Plus, Ariza galvanizes the locker room, and is one of the most respected leaders in the NBA.
Maybe Ariza is a sweetener to get a trade done, but it doesn't make sense to try and dump his contract. His contract is very friendly -- modest and shrinks with each year.
I wouldn't be okay with this as much as I want Melo. We already lost Bev and Lou. If we lose Ariza and Anderson that's literally half our rotation from last year. Sometimes you need some pieces to stay the same.
I've said it before and I will say it again... IMO trading Anderson + EGO/Ariza is a step backwards for our team.
Ariza is very important for this team. I´m prepared to see him o Ego leave but just if Morey pulls something like a Lowry kind of get. I can believe in that. Don´t really know if realistic, but hey, that it the only scenario where I as a fan can be on board happily.
Y'all really believe Morey would put a opportunity to have a big 3 (the thing he has been chasing for 10 years) on hold because of Trevor freakin Ariza? Sure it would be great if we can get Melo for just Anderson but chances are we will have to add another asset to get the deal done and I'm sorry but Ariza is just not a good enough player to be untouchable... like Morey said we have to "up the risk profile" to compete with GS
Morey was ready to sign Parsons to a 4 year deal as soon as Bosh had signed. In fact, the only reason why he didn't pick up Parsons' option was because that was part of the wink-wink deal to get Dwight here. The two situations are nowhere near related. Plus, Ariza is a VALUABLE member of this team, and brings toughness, accountability, defense, and tenacity with him. You say CP3 came here to run with James.....I say he came here to run with the ROCKETS.
yup because again he doesn't overpay. i guess that's the part you're not getting especially given the situation. Morey has no reason to. he's not dumb like half these other gm's in the league.
I'm not saying Ariza isn't a valueable member of the team I'm saying I know how Daryl operates... 1. He values superstar players over everything else BY FAR. 2. He isn't going to keep one player because he is friends with someone else. 3. He knows the window to compete with Harden and Paul is small and you have to take risk to win it all. And it's not like trading Ariza is even that much of a risk I mean at least it wouldn't handicap us in the future... would you rather get rid of Ariza or have to take back another trash contract that will limit our moves going forward?
What is he overpaying? I mean we have to get rid of Anderson for salary to match anyway... and most around the league seem to look at him as a negative asset (even though I don't necessarily agree) So if we trade Ariza and Anderson that's one positive asset that we are sending out and that asset is a 32 year old role player! Seems like a god damn steal for Carmelo Anthony one of the best and most versatile scorers of all time.
he would be overpaying bc hes giving up more of the immediate core and an absolutely necessary piece in what the rockets are trying to build for this coming season. and again given the situation where all signs are saying melo himself only wants to come here to begin with.
Not surprised by this. CP3 and Harden are going to value the chance to win over friendships. Besides, if we deal Ariza it's not like he gets marooned on an island. He's still playing basketball, happy as a clam and they'll all still be boys off the court.
I am saying that Morey is the type of GM that assigns values to players and only make deals that potentially improve the team. Melo for Anderson improves the team. Melo for Anderson+Ariza does NOT improve the team.
Look we can get into a game of chicken with the Knicks but at the end of the day a Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush... This situation could always change the longer this saga goes on... what if we keep the roster we have now and start the season off bad and Melo no longer has interest? Or another team makes a push and Melo adds another team to his list? I'd rather we go into training camp and the season with a big 3 give them time to develop a chemistry and give it a real run than try and hold out for Ariza. especially when if you look at the moves Morey has made by signing Tucker and Luc he is preparing for Ariza to possibly not be here. You can say we need 4 forwards to switch against the warriors which would be nice but Mike ain't playing all those guys if they are all here anyway.
