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Ariza is a problem

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pipesir, Nov 20, 2009.

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  1. J.Will.Xu

    J.Will.Xu Member

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    I'm not content with anything Ariza did so far on the court,he's not energetic on the floor,passing up wide open shots,miss fire from downtown while not contested.His dribble skill is really as much of a problem as his shooting.He needs improvement on it asap.
     
  2. pdewalt

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    Sounds like a justification for expanding the rotation. Doubt that it will happen.
    This team needs either more talent or more consistency from the players that it has...
     
  3. Roxxx4life

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    If they didn't turn the ball over too much, they probably have won... We cannot really point finger to any of them because they all gave their heart's out... It was a great game overall even though we/they lose...
     
  4. Z-Ro&Trae

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    yes he is a starter type player. this is just his first time adjusting to being the man of the team.
     
  5. RocketsPimp

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    Uhhh...not good :p Artest shot 40% last year from behind the arc. Ariza has never shot above 33% from behind the arc. That's not his game.
     
  6. J.Will.Xu

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    Not quite so,Ariza shoots above 33% so far into the season,.365 from behind the three-point territory as I viewed the stats.

    Percentage isn't the only turmoil we have in Ariza's recent performance,his shot selection I guess should be to blame for most of his bad shots and hesitation on the wide open looks.And too many 3s he took really bothers me.7.1 3pa per game is highest on this team,followed by aaron brooks' 6.3.

    :eek:
     
  7. LewLLOYD

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    Ariza always plays excellent D. His offense comes and goes, but if it was always there he would be a top ten elite level player (and the only difference there would be that they would give him three steps).
     
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    Hid D is as inconsistent as his offense. WHo have you been watching?
     
  9. RV6

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    everyone and their mother sees how much he gambles. That is not consistent d. What happens is he looks good when he stays on his man, and when he gambles and doesn't get the steal a teammate ends up looking bad, so some fans don't associate that lapse in D with Trevor, but they'll notice when the gamble pays off and he gets a steal...and even with his offense there he's not an elite player, he can't dribble well enough, that's why his offense is inconsistent, it's dependent on what the offense gives him.
     
  10. RV6

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    edit** I meant it's dependent on what the defense gives him, not offense, he doesn't care what the offense gives him, he just jacks it up anyway :grin:
     
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    I just got to say what the he'll is wrong with the people flaming ariza. Give him a break. He had great defense and is offense was not that bad. Yeh sometimes he dribbles into bad spaces but mostly because of lack of time on the shot clock... At least he is not playin out of the offense system. He came from a complimentary guy to do so much. It's gonna take him time to adjust. I think turnovers are not just ariza but Brooks also turns over the ball in crucial times...

    Anyways chill out rockets played good today and we should be proud.. Hawks are a bad matchup( according to daryl morey and yet we played good and never gave up) we are only gonna get better!!!
     
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    Sorry for the bad posts up there,I just don't have the privilege to edit the post.Please some of whom could do that help to delete it.

    Appreciated. :)
     
  15. Williamson

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    I don't even like looking at this board after a loss. There are so many ridiculous knee jerk reactions. Ariza is playing fine. The problem is that at times he's having to take on the role of go to guy. He should never ever have to do that. He'll never ever be that.
     
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    I keep reading how McGrady is going to be a terrible fit with this team. But, actually, a healthy McGrady from 2 years ago will fix a lot of their problems offensively. Ariza is playing a role right now that he is not well suited for.

    McGrady and Ariza start, Battier moves to the bench. Its not like Battier runs the floor in transition, so its not going to hurt our early offense. McGrady is just as good at hitting a trailing 3-pointer as Shane, and plus he has better ball-handling and vision to create better quality shots if they are there. With McGrady in there, now the starting lineup has two guys who can run a pick and roll. Ariza can be something closer to what he was with Lakers, which is better for our team. And off the bench, Battier should split time with Budinger depending on matchups.
     
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    Ariza had his perfect role defined last season. Spot up open 3 shooter, play passing lane and finish fast break. That's what he excels and that all he's skilled.

    He doesn't have a good handle and never will. That pretty much ends any potential huge upside for him on offense end.
     
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    Well, he is the 27th best player in fantasy basketball right now...

    That is pretty good for what we are paying him...

    If he ever figures out how to bump his shooting percentage up(More drives), he is nearly an all-star...
     
  19. larsv8

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    I am ok with Ariza trying to learn how to be a better offensive player this year even if it means dismal percentages, but if it doesnt show improvement by playoff time, it never will so there is no point in continuing with him as our workhorse.

    Right now there is just no balance at our wing positions. We have two great defenders but mediocre offensive players. McGrady would really fit in well as the primary shot taker but at this point who knows what is going to happen with him.I am willing to bet Morey will once again try and snag Butler from Washington at the deadline, maybe even dangling Battier this time.

    This is year is basically a learning year anyway, so I am not too concerned about it.
     
  20. Alvin Choo

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    Why is people defending him? He came to Rox so he can show case his offensive prowess. He did not came here to play defense, he came here to score, which is something that Lakers cannot provide him.

    And by trying so hard on the offensive end, his defensive capabilites have suffered. Watch the game, and look beyond the box score. He get steals/deflections by taking alot of chances not by playing great man-on-man D.
     

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